Labelling Children

I think a postcode lottery[not sure that is the right phrase but I think people know what I mean] may be going on in the UK, which explains at least some of the very diverse answers.

Out of interest Lisalou, how many children do you think you have seen who have been diagnosed incorrectly?
Are you talking say 4 or 5 in your career[which could happen anywhere I would have thought], or a lot more than that?

Just because a child is 'articulate and bright" it does not mean that child doesn't have problems LIsalou As a teacher you should realise that there are experts in various fields who are able to understand better than you what is going on. I spent a lot of years dealing with teachers like you who believed because my son was articulate, creative and very able in some areas he could not possibly be dyslexic. Even after his diagnosis they continued to insist he would be fine if he just worked harder. They made his school life a misery. Years later we can discuss it and he explained that reading was always hard for him and that when he was tired he found it almost impossible, but he always tried to conceal his difficulties. Perhaps you could talk to the boy concerned and discover why he behaves the way he does there may very well be a reason for the lies about his homework.

Not a huge amount, personally maybe a handful. Of which my son is one. He was diagnosed with dyslexia early on (around the age of seven) received much appreciated help, but we were to find out later that it was a problem of an emotional nature due to losing his father (he just fell out of his life aged four) which caused him to deal badly with school on a variety of levels.
I have, on the other hand, spoken to a huge amount of teachers who feel the same, and have cases in current classrooms.

Thank heavens attitudes have changed. I can remember children being caned for getting sums wrong or bad spelling. My sister being one of them, today it would be called learning difficulties. And the dunces cap really did exist.

You may be right Trisher, and I do spend a lot of time with him. I help him as much as I can. We have spoken about the lies and he has told me, when he was in the mood, that he often doesnt feel like doing the homework, so he lies to not have to do it. It came across to me as a typical pre-teen (12) who was acting out. Seeing as he gets very good grades when he puts in the work, I felt the diagnosis (which was a private one and cost a fortune to his parents) might have been a way for the doctor to justify his very high fee.
I work very hard with him, and give of my own time to help him. I am sorry if I may have sounded annoyed in previous post, but did find some of the accusations and attacks were uncalled for.

Lisalou I too found the attacks on you uncalled for. Some posters even said they would not want you teaching their children / grandchildren. Well I would love you to teach mine and I find your common sense thinking refreshing . Anya states she was a outstanding teacher, and I have no reaon to dought it, however the same could apply to you, you just did not seem to mention it, and just because you have a different perspective on this and one which I share, does not mean others should attack you for it

Perhaps the problem is that many of us have dealt with very unsympathetic teachers for many years and Lisalou's post touched a nerve and we reacted very badly.

I thought there was no diagnosis of autism any more. Isn't it all ASD?

Yes and apparently Aspergers is not now a separate diagnosis I believe.

Late development of the left brain coul be this
'Wernicke's area is the region of the brain that is important for language development. The Wernicke's area is located in the temporal lobe on the left side of the brain and is responsible for the comprehension of speech (Broca's area is related to the production of speech).'
Delayed language development?

I have just been watching The Black Balloon on catch up. It shows how difficult life can be for the siblings of someone with autism.It was on BBC1 last night if anyone is interested.

rafichagran 'outstanding' is a term applied by OFSTED not a random assessment on my own.

Greenfinch I'll watch that tomorrow. I'm especially interested as GS1's younger brother, who is the complete opposite - outgoing, sporty, sociable and confident is becoming more and more aware that his older brother is 'different'.

Anya I am well aware that OFSTED rate the teacher's, my friend was rated as outstanding. I am just saying that may be the original poster may also have been rated as outstanding and has chosen not to say.

I also think it is sad, and must be hurtful for a teacher to be told by others here on this forum, that they would not like them teaching their children or Grandchildren, just because she has asked a question and expressed her views which alot of you do not agree with. She may be a wonderful teacher.

No Ofsted don't rate teachers. They never did. They rated schools overall and individual lessons they observed and that ended in 2014.

I'm pleased that you know that 'OFSTED rate the teacher's' [sic]

OK they rated the lessons ....which were delivered by teachers.

Anyone seen Ankers recently

Jayanna they rate the 'quality of teaching'

Yes this was about 5 years ago and my friend was given feedback about her lesson, as being outstanding. I know she was very proud of this. To be fair though I did not know this all ended in 2014 as it has not been spoken about since.

Anya the film is about two teenage brothers one of whom is severely autistic. The film deals with the embarrassment,responsibility,frustration and loneliness of the sibling but also with the love/hate relationship with his brother and is set in Australia.In reality I think it would be very difficult to have a boy like this living at home.It made me feel very humble and grateful for the far fewer problems my DG1 has.

Those poor families with a child whose autism is severe. Indeed any family with a child whose disabilities are at that level has my entire sympathy Greenfinch

Even between the grans on here who have GC with ASD there is a wide range of 'problems' but I think we are all grateful that the education system (by and large) and society (in general) is much more aware than in previous generations and much more accepting. Still plenty of research to be done as the human brain is such a complicated organ, but medical research is pushing back the frontiers in almost every area.

They rate the quality of teaching in a school overal, using a "best fit" judgement. So they might observe some outstanding lessons, some good and make the judgement that overall the balance is that the quality of teaching is outstanding. It doesn't mean everyone they observe is outstanding though.
In regard to individual lessons, in primary it is perfectly possible for a teacher to deliver an outstanding lesson in a subject such as history because this is her passion and to be satisfactory or even unsatisfactory in Maths say.
In secondary a lesson where a teacher delivers her specialist subject a lesson can be outstanding on that particular day, in that particular aspect of the subject, with that particular class, from which certain children may just be absent.
This "luck of the draw" aspect of inspection was what led to the withdrawal of grading of individual lessons.
At no point should an individual teacher have been told that she was an outstanding teacher , the reference was always to the lesson observed, and individual teachers were never identified in the written reports.
This is not to say that I don't agree with the majority of what has been said on this thread but I think the argument is lost if it leads us to overegg the pudding!

OK we're all rubbish teachers and it was the luck of the draw

wanders off to find something to over-egg