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absent Wed 07-Dec-16 23:06:23

It seems to be an increasingly popular political hobby to disparage experts and denigrate what they have to say on just about any subject. Michael Gove was the leading light in the UK on this during the EU referendum but it's a trend that is not just confined to Brits and seems to have struck a chord among many voters in various countries. I think there is a good reason for this and it is a cause for concern.

It seems to me that the term "expert" has been hijacked. People without any genuine depth of knowledge or special skills, apart from a great capacity for self-advertisement and an ability to trot out the ever-popular sound bite, have set themselves up as experts or been set up as so by the media. There was an old saying that anyone who could hold a pencil thought he could write a book. Nowadays, anyone with a computer keyboard thinks the same – and it's a lot easier than hand-writing. The massive growth of social media and the difficulty of filling up the time for 24-hour TV also pander to the self-proclaimed expert. Bad as this is, it has, I think, had a worse knock-on effect.

A little learning is indeed a dangerous thing and so too is an unquestioning faith in google searches. It has resulted in teachers inspecting children's lunch boxes for "unhealthy food" without having any real understanding of nutrition and, in fact, without any authority to do so. It has resulted in spurious and sometimes extremely dangerous "medical" advice presented as truth by people with no absolutely no medical training and quite possibly not even a biology CSE. It has produced the new UKIP leader challenging Mary Beard on the reasons for the fall of the Roman Empire, presented as a parallel to justify Brexit, citing school history lessons, I Claudius and Gladiator as his sources. And the trouble is that those who are equally ignorant believe this nonsense.

No wonder the expression "post-truth" is now being bandied around when people who have in-depth knowledge or special skills in a particular area are denigrated by those who do not. Their carefully considered conclusions are ignored and their reputations are tarnished because others, who don't know what they are talking about, are grouped in the same category as real experts.

rosesarered Fri 09-Dec-16 20:03:32

Good post Monica

Ana Fri 09-Dec-16 20:04:08

Exactly! However many obstacles determined Remainers put in the way...

Jalima Sat 10-Dec-16 09:35:49

Those are my feelings too M0nica

If predicting the future was an exact science we would not be coming out of the EU.
Even probability (which is not a science) did not predict the result.

LumpySpacedPrincess Sat 10-Dec-16 10:23:05

The trouble with the suggestion to "suck it up buttercup" is that it's spouted by people who are in a position to weather the storm.

Meanwhile there are families already at breaking point due to austerity cuts choosing between fuel or food...

Anya Sat 10-Dec-16 10:43:29

I take your point Lumpy but the austerity measures are the reason for this sort of poverty not Brexit. I'm seriously questioning whether these measures are the answer. Draconian cuts to council funding, job losses, NHS in crisis. Yes, we need to balance the books but this way is simply not working as we, as a nation are borrowing more than ever.

LumpySpacedPrincess Sat 10-Dec-16 10:54:56

Austerity cuts are counter productive, they are idealistic cuts not a sensible way to balance the books. Balancing the books has gone out of the window anyway post brexit, shame for the people who lost their lives under them. The Austerity Delusion by Paul Krugman is a good read, out dated now.

Brexit will cause more poverty on top of years and years of grinding austerity.

Jalima Sat 10-Dec-16 17:25:54

Austerity measures have been a fact of life for many countries in the EU (Eurozone in particular) for many years, and imposed by the EU in some cases.

Austerity measures are not a result of Brexit; I do not think they are the answer either as they are certainly not working elsewhere.

Some statistics (may or may not be scientific, may mean nothing hmm)

www.europeaninstitute.org/index.php/112-european-affairs/special-g-20-issue-on-financial-reform/1180-austerity-measures-in-the-eu

LumpySpacedPrincess Sat 10-Dec-16 17:31:26

No, austerity measures are nothing to do with brexit, we haven't brexited anything yet although financial repercussions are already being felt.

The tories decided what to axe and where the axe was going to fall, which parts of the community they protected and which they persecuted.
The UN feel that British austerity measures breach basic human rights.

Jalima Sat 10-Dec-16 17:35:19

Sorry, misunderstood LSP

LumpySpacedPrincess Sat 10-Dec-16 18:06:43

No worries smile