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Luckygirl Sun 27-Nov-16 16:57:43

Since moving to this new area (not far) I am being pursued by a lady who latched on to me many years ago and was a problem then. When we moved about 20 years ago she stopped getting in touch, but now we are back living nearer she rings up wanting to have a coffee and I am always putting her off. She has no sense of boundaries and I know from past experience that if I give her an inch she will take a mile and we will not get rid of her.

My DD was in the same class at school as hers and DD was persuaded into a sleepover there and came back and said please please find a way to get me out of doing it again. I do not think that anything seriously untoward happened - it was just an uncomfortable atmosphere.

This lady has a longstanding mental health problem(I suspect bipolar) and I appreciate that life has been hard for her. I have suffered from depression so understand some of it. This makes me feel even worse about putting her off, but I do not feel able to cope with letting her in to my life. For entirely inappropriate reasons she looks up to me because of OH's profession and also because I pursued a career in a field which is her hobby.

What would you do? - there are only so many times that the doorbell can ring when she phones. She is desperately needy and just wants a friend, but unfortunately she has poor social skills and sucks people dry.

tanith Sun 27-Nov-16 17:08:00

If it were me I'd keep putting her off and hope eventually she gets the message.

DaphneBroon Sun 27-Nov-16 17:09:31

Steady as you go, it sounds as if you are doing all the right things already. Remaining friendly, being polite it frightfully busy, there's not much more you can do and you needn't beat yourself up about it.
Do you have Caller ID on your phone? Don't pick up and if (for instance in Lent as your "penance"(!) ) you feel,you can bear it, agree to meet somewhere neutral for a coffee with a prearranged phone call to get you away after half an hour.
Sad situation but easier to forestall than to extricate yourself if you once "let her in".

loopylou Sun 27-Nov-16 17:09:36

Could you get 'Caller ID' on your phone?
It's really difficult isn't it? I had to resort to being very blunt to the point of rudeness when it happened to me and eventually the caller took the hint.
I appreciated that she needed a friend but firstly I wasn't that person and secondly she was pretty impervious to hints etc

Luckygirl Sun 27-Nov-16 17:22:32

I do have caller ID - but don't actually know her number - but I know the code so could probably deduce from that.

She is indeed impervious to hints. But deep down I do feel sorry for her and in a way admire her for bashing on against all the odds.

The other problem is that OH would go apeshit if she came round. He is not well and close friends understand that, but he is not happy with others. So - no coming here then - and I do not ant to go there. Maybe I could find some neutral territory if I run out of excuses.

Lona Sun 27-Nov-16 18:01:34

Can't you just be firm and say"Sorry, it's not convenient at the moment, I have a lot on my plate most of the time."
You don't have to give reasons.

Luckygirl Sun 27-Nov-16 18:03:00

I have told her that!!! And she rings and says "I know you are busy, but...."

Elegran Sun 27-Nov-16 18:10:18

But if she rings you, you must be able to get her number?

Auntieflo Sun 27-Nov-16 18:22:20

If she rings, you can you then dial 1471, and if the number is not withheld, note it down, then when you see it and can recognise it on your Caller ID, just let it go to answer phone. Would that work?

Peep Sun 27-Nov-16 19:00:29

Oh dear, you could be writing about me, although not these days. Depression, breakdown and recent diagnosis of Aspergers has made me more aware of trying not to appear needy! I don't know what to suggest really apart from what you're already doing, I expect she's used to it.

M0nica Sun 27-Nov-16 20:19:57

Perhaps a meeting in a public place. Get up after an hour and go, and if she then rings say that you really cannot see or speak to her for a few months because you are so busy, after that for the next few months do not pick the phone up if she rings. If she is still ringing after then, repeat the cycle.

Bellanonna Sun 27-Nov-16 20:28:31

Maybe not meet at all. Possibly just say you'll get in touch when you can. Meeting now, even briefly and in a cafe, might just perpetuate her hope that you're still "friends". I think it's kinder to make a clean break and it needn't be done harshly. Difficult one I can appreciate.

grandma60 Sun 27-Nov-16 20:42:06

This rings a few bells with me. I have just retired, but before then a woman that lives a couple of streets away latched on to me while waiting for the morning train. She sat next to me every morning for more than 2 years and talked nonstop about every minute detail of her life. Told me a lot of things about herself that were obviously untrue as she would often contradict herself. For instance she told me her job was so important that she was not allowed to wear her business clothes travelling to work in case someone followed her to her office. In later conversations I worked out that she does a very mundane job in the office of a security company. In all those 2 years she never knew a thing about my life as I couldn't of got a word in edgeways to tell her. Now she wants to keep in touch and put a note through my door with her phone no. I do feel bad as I realize she lives alone and is very lonely. She has no family but talks about hundreds of friends but it just doesn't ring true. I think if I tried to meet her occasionally she would want more but she is just so draining. It is so sad but I really don't know the answer for her.

thatbags Sun 27-Nov-16 20:53:52

You're not being a heel, lucky. Self-preservation in such circumstances is justified.

I had a friend like that. She had sucked a few people dry before me, and then a few after. Sometimes avoidance is the best option flowers

Anya Sun 27-Nov-16 21:44:38

Come on Lucky cut her some slack. The woman is lonely and suffering mental health problems. Surely you could meet her once a month for a coffee in town?

Jayanna9040 Sun 27-Nov-16 22:18:03

But it wouldn't be once a month. That's the problem. And anyway, you don't even owe her that. Time with her is time away from your real friends or your husband who might need you just as much but wouldn't say. Don't feel the least bit guilty and don't let anyone else either!

Penstemmon Sun 27-Nov-16 22:22:39

You say your DH is not well. Tell her you are not able to have casual visitors as your DH needs quiet at home but you could meet her in the Spring as you are busy over the run up to Christmas and for New Year. Tell her to call you at the beginning of March. You have not rejected her, you have preserved your privacy and you can meet her for an hour or so for a coffee. When you meet give her another time she can call you, e.g. end of May etc. That way you stay in control. May not work but maybe worth a try?

thatbags Mon 28-Nov-16 07:23:11

Excellent idea, pen.

Christinefrance Mon 28-Nov-16 08:46:50

Yes that seems like a good idea Penstemmon, not too harsh but gets the message across.
I have a couple of friends like that grandma60, they tell me every detail of their lives but never ask how things are going for me. I am also going to cool a 'friendship ' with a couple who take from us all the time in terms of time and help but never reciprocate even with a small gift or thank you. A little appreciation goes a long way.

Anya Mon 28-Nov-16 08:58:09

Jayanna I'm a bit of an old softie when it comes to the lonely and friendless as I have a GS with ASD and he has no friends. Luckily he has his extended family, for now.

But I do know a couple of people like this and yes, they are -a bloody nuisance-- tiresome. So I make a date with them once a month or so, and bite the bullet. And I set up the next date there and then and don't alllow them to intrude on my life.

As I see it, I can put up with them for that amount of time, and I know they are desperately lonely and seeking more, but that's all I can honestly give.

br0adwater Mon 28-Nov-16 09:20:48

Lucky, you have done everything right so far so carry on the same. I can't understand why some are advising ways to manage a friendship, when you don't want one. Your first loyalty is to yourself, then your husband, then family, then dear trusted friends etc.

You are not the only person that this lady could give her friendship to. Let her drift away to find someone who would be glad of her company.

DaphneBroon Mon 28-Nov-16 09:29:17

I worry that I could be that person.
There have been times (still are) when I desperately need to "offload", when coffee with a friend who has no connection with the NHS is a lifeline, or a few hours of trying to be "my own person" is essential for my sanity.
I worry about friends hiding behind lamp posts, metaphorically speaking, when they see me coming as my dear late MIL used to say "Nobdy likes a moaning Minnie" and I will now overthink the proposed "must meet in the New Year" type of lunch or coffee dates offered. sad
I do try to remain upbeat, to shut up about me and hear all about their cruises/holidays/perfect lives talk about them, but sometimes it is hard sad

Anya Mon 28-Nov-16 09:37:24

Oddly enough I an not a Christian, more a devout atheist, but I do find some of these posts just a touch sad. Yes, I can understand why people feel like this, but put yourself in their position for a moment.

I'm not virtue signalling (I hope) because I do find these people tedious and hard work, but there are too many Eleanor Rugby's out there!

MiniMouse Mon 28-Nov-16 10:12:58

Lucky If I've understood correctly, this lady has managed without your shoulder for the twenty years that you were out of her area? How did she manage without you? Did she latch on to someone else?

This may sound harsh, but I do speak from experience here! I was the twenty-five year shoulder for someone who phoned practically every day and would talk/moan for an hour or two. This was before cordless phones or caller id. I would probably have answered anyway because I would have felt so guilty if anything had happened to said person. That's what traps you, the feelings of guilt!!

When my circumstances changed (ill health) and I was no longer 'on tap', she immediately filled the gap that I left with someone else. So, what I am saying is, don't feel bad about putting her off, she will, in all probability ,find someone else. Unfortunate for them, but it would be their decision whether, or not, to become involved.

Hope you manage to resolve this without feeling bad about it. My conscience pricked me for ages until I discovered that I'd been replaced!

Jayanna9040 Mon 28-Nov-16 10:40:49

Daphnebroon, I think you are v funny and would not hide behind lamp-post. Would not be much use anyway given size of my hips!