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Gransnet today....Just my opinion.

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merlotgran Sun 27-Nov-16 11:43:46

Don't want to completely hi-jack the 'Christmas in four words' thread so I've started this one. Feel free to shoot me down. I don't do flouncing. grin

Some time ago, the 'What does Gransnet mean to you?'thread developed into a 'Bring back jingl' campaign. Despite this, it has become clear that we are not entitled to an explanation as to why she is still shackled to the naughty step

We inhabit a goldfish bowl which must be respectable to the outside world looking in on an ageing cyber community. Old people are only expected to be curmudgeonly in books and TV nonsense. Manufactured threads about growing old disgracefully are perfectly acceptable so long as they fit the approved template which has been set by people who are NOT as old as we are.

All well and good until a situation causes a ding-dong. We must be ever mindful that Gransnet is a business relying on advertising revenue. Swearing is tolerated on Mumsnet because it's acceptable in the young and feisty whereas the 'one foot in the grave' club have to leave all that behind and remember our opinions don't really count any more.

The political threads are argumentative because that's politics. You can't put a straight jacket on a well informed if opiniated point of view which is as it should be. Folk who hide behind the sofa when all hell breaks loose should know better than to get caught in the cross-fire.

So....We're allowed to moan about Brexit, complain about our aches and pains and chat about telly dramas/adverts/music. We willingly offer support to complete strangers even though it often comes back to bite us. I'm not the only one who can spot a set-up. Above all, we must remain bland!

There were two members who railed against this. One is sadly no longer with us and the other has been kicked into touch for being too outspoken. Unsurprisingly, they rarely saw eye to eye but that's LIFE!

I'm off to put the joint in the oven. I might even start a thread about it. hmm

Only joking!

Alima Mon 28-Nov-16 18:30:28

Jalima, there was a photo from one of the red tops of a Jack Dusty issuing one of the last tots. We knew him, a few years later he worked at Vicky Barracks, tall, dark handsome chap. Just cannot think of his name!

Elegran Mon 28-Nov-16 18:35:59

Am I right in thinking that when the "mainbrace was spliced" and tots issued, the officers opening the rum cask worked in pairs and very fast - not because one of them might be imbibing illicitly while he had the chance, but because the fumes could have knocked out one man on his own?

Then there is the legend of "tapping the admiral"

Alima Mon 28-Nov-16 18:44:21

When DH was in, wee bit later than Waterloo, there was just a pipe, "Up spirits" and the tots were given out. He hasn't heard of the "tapping the admiral" bit. Sounds a bit dodgy to me!

Elegran Mon 28-Nov-16 19:20:00

alima The legend had it (apocryphal) that Nelson's body was brought home preserved in a keg of rum, but by the time he arrived back in Britain, all the rum had vanished - said to be due to people dropping in to pay their respects and tapping the barrel. More likely evaporation.

(By tapping, I don't mean knocking it, I mean tapping as a pub landlord taps it.)

A second lieutenant I know said that they used to be sent to measure out the tots for the spirit ration, but was only supposed to spend a limited time in the enclosed space with the barrel open, and had to be in pairs. I imagine it was also so that they didn't have time to help themselves!

Alima Mon 28-Nov-16 19:36:26

Thank you Elegran, an interesting and credible tale about Nelson
(My only reference book is Jackspeak, a rather tongue in cheek dictionary of Naval sayings. Their definition of tapping is rather different so it is good to know the actual one).

Jalima Mon 28-Nov-16 19:42:05

Alima tots are still available at Naval Reunions wink

trisher Mon 28-Nov-16 19:49:56

Just caught up with this- GS has been for tea. It's probably just as well I wasn't on I might have said something unrepeatable to Christinefrance or whatever her name is. And I haven't had a glass of anything, but maybe I will now. Quite honestly my response to her "give it up" is simple.It's abusive. It's two words, and the second one is "off".

glassortwo Mon 28-Nov-16 20:05:25

Thank you merlot for that OP well said.

This had done a full circle and is back to where we were a few weeks ago and all that was said on that post about Jingles banning and how GNHQ look upon the members here as delicate beige wearing folk that need protected.

I very rarely venture over here these days, I can stay at home to be bored...
I know all the new posters are going to bristle over this but what has happened to Gn over the last few years hmm did it have anything to do with the loss of greatnan that the stuffing had been knocked out of us all?
Is it down to losing posters like Jingle and others who were passionate about the threads they posted on, yes Jingles ruffled a few feathers but there are also the posters who stir just as much but slide under the HQ radar!
At the end of the day its down to us all to make GN as strong a community as MN but the members who are over quick with that report button need to look at the damage they are doing.

merlotgran Mon 28-Nov-16 20:29:01

Yes, I do feel like we're going round in circles, glass

Without witty and feisty posters Gransnet will soon become Grannynet where they all died of boredom.

Shanma Mon 28-Nov-16 20:30:24

Janeainsworth, Have a go at Kittylester?? Sorry who IS that?, ah yes must be that irritating person that I have used my personal ignore button on ( As GNHQ refuse to give us one).

DaphneBroon Mon 28-Nov-16 20:59:39

Why on earth be so bl**dy rude shanma?
I cannot imagine what you have got against kittylester but it seems you are including janea in your broadside, better include me as well if being obnoxious having a
go at people is what floats your boat.

Grannyknot Mon 28-Nov-16 21:03:28

I've decided that I am a highly adaptable person. Shapeshifter, that's me.

Luckygirl Mon 28-Nov-16 21:05:28

glassortwo - the new members ARE Gransnet as much as the more longstanding ones. With every new member the forum changes its nature a bit - that's fine. Looking back is pointless - as with life, things move on.

Grannyknot Mon 28-Nov-16 21:10:09

Yupp.

Ana Mon 28-Nov-16 21:15:47

Perhaps we'll just have to wait for some wittier and more feisty new members then to restore the balance. And a good sense of humour would help...

thatbags Mon 28-Nov-16 21:41:08

Feisty is apparently derived from an old US dialect (old US?) word 'fist' meaning a small aggressive dog, which itself comes from Middle English fisten: to break wind.

Penstemmon Mon 28-Nov-16 21:44:39

grin farty gransnetters... c'mon own up you trumpers wink

Ana Mon 28-Nov-16 21:47:03

Farty then? A small and aggressive farty dog? grin

merlotgran Mon 28-Nov-16 21:48:42

I've got one of those grin

Luckygirl Mon 28-Nov-16 21:57:24

Let's be glad this is online grin

merlotgran Mon 28-Nov-16 22:02:37

Actually, I've got two but thankfully one is less farty than the other.

rosesarered Mon 28-Nov-16 22:21:04

Merlot wine your thread has descended into farty feisty dogs.....

rosesarered Mon 28-Nov-16 22:21:56

moon
Who knows what tomorrow may bring.

Youarerightornot Mon 28-Nov-16 22:28:23

Having just read all this,and the defefence from GNET, all I can say is well done OP. So many feisty members have been shut down. So many posts have been edited, such as "aye right" becoming.. "as they say in Scotland, aye right". Nobody from Scotland would ever say that, but Gransnet staff did. Racist website!

Candlefran Mon 28-Nov-16 22:33:34

shock ! The buggers!