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FarNorth Sun 13-Nov-16 17:10:13

Several people on GN made posts saying something like " Hooray - the Conservatives won the election! "

I'd like to ask if they, or anyone else who agrees with them, have seen the film "I, Daniel Blake" and, if so, have they any comment to make?

www.theguardian.com/film/video/2016/jun/15/i-daniel-blake-trailer-ken-loach-palme-dor-winner-video

People who were not happy when the Conservatives won the election, please do not post on this thread.

Penstemmon Sun 13-Nov-16 19:24:08

The small c was a conscious choice Ana. Do you really think there are more mainpaper uardian readers on GN than those who read the DM as their main paper? That would really buck the sales figures!

Penstemmon Sun 13-Nov-16 19:24:45

soory..fat fingers and a large G&T fingers tonight!

Ana Sun 13-Nov-16 19:35:27

Which sales figures? confused

Ceesnan Sun 13-Nov-16 19:44:46

I started watching it but walked out about half way through it. Every cliche in the book and then some more thrown in for good measure. However, I do read the DM so really was the wrong demograph....

Penstemmon Sun 13-Nov-16 19:45:03

Try these
www.pressgazette.co.uk/nrs-daily-mail-most-popular-uk-news-print-and-online-23m-readers-month/

Penstemmon Sun 13-Nov-16 19:46:29

Which cliche you dislike the most ceesnan? There were some.

Ceesnan Sun 13-Nov-16 20:05:36

The interviews at the job centre, relocated single mum, food bank despair....I'm not callous and I know these things happen but. i just found myself thinking "Oh for God's sake..." so walked out. I should have read up a bit about it and saved myself some cash!

Penstemmon Sun 13-Nov-16 20:22:27

If you know these things happen and you are not callous why did you think 'Oh for God's sake' ? It was clearly advertised as a film about the current "benefit" system! confused

I wished the film had taken more interest into
a)the Job Centre workers..who by the skin of their teeth may have been escaping Daniel's situation
b) the company / organisation who run Job Centres
I think that would have given another perspective.

I do agree that the food bank scene was uncomfortable and not my experience of Food banks.

FarNorth Sun 13-Nov-16 20:50:47

Thank you for answering the question in the OP, Ceesnan.

Ceesnan Sun 13-Nov-16 21:01:30

I know I should have thought more before going to see it. After all, I know Ken Loach is a gritty, tell it like he sees it film maker. I rather naively expected a less biased approach. Stupid really.....ah well....

Shanma Mon 14-Nov-16 00:25:48

I have not seen the Film, nor did I vote Conservative. I do object to being told not to post on any thread though for whatever reason.
Is the OP running Gn now then? What a cheek!

durhamjen Mon 14-Nov-16 00:50:38

There's your answer, FarNorth.
If I were you, I'd go on the I Daniel Blake thread, where you will find some people who have seen it and appreciate the reality of it.
No Tory would ever admit to what austerity is doing to the country.

Why would you expect a less biased approach from the man who produced Cathy Come Home?
I was reading today about a single mum who had just had a baby and then was made redundant because the company she worked for closed.
She was given no maternity benefit and had to prove she was a single mum to the DWP. She ended up at a food bank as she had no money for over five weeks. She felt so bad at not being able to provide for her children any more that she burst into tears. They helped her get a council house because she had lost her home as she couldn't pay the rent.

I assume you think that's all cliches too, but it's real life for some people.
The film was well researched, but obviously not in the DM.
It was filmed in Newcastle. The food bank exists, the largest foodbank in the country. Those queues are real. They were not all actors.
Have you not heard that lots of faamilies have been told to move away from London to get accommodation elsewhere? That's real, too.
If you told me about your life, Ceesnan, I'd probably think you lived a cliched life, too. Just different cliches.

FarNorth Mon 14-Nov-16 07:33:55

Sorry Shanma, and anyone else who was annoyed.
I just wanted opinions of this film from supporters of the Conservatives.

Anniebach Mon 14-Nov-16 08:32:35

Jen, you think all those people will be saved by Corbyn , no , and you are helping the country on the road to another Tory Government .

Anniebach Mon 14-Nov-16 09:37:29

Which party does Loach support now? He was a member of Goerge Galloways Respect Party ,

rosesarered Mon 14-Nov-16 09:51:42

Djen oh, haven't we had a lot of Labour Governments since Cathy Come Home?
The truth is, that there will always be people in need under ANY government ( since the population here is growing by millions then there will be even more.)
The young Mother in the film was helped wasn't she, food and council housing given.

Anniebach Mon 14-Nov-16 09:58:47

When Corbyn is PM, no one will live in poverty, no one will be unemployed, there will be houses for everyone , there will always be empty seats on trains,

Think I will read Alice In Wonderland again

rosesarered Mon 14-Nov-16 10:00:42

Yes Annieb possibly constant rainbows for us all as well.

Anniebach Mon 14-Nov-16 10:08:03

Gosh, he will stop snow falling in Wales, vote red labour momentum please

Eloethan Mon 14-Nov-16 15:46:01

Things have not "only changed slightly" since the Coalition/Conservatives came to power. They have changed enormously:

Bedroom Tax

Legal Aid no longer available for matrimonial, family/child contact, employment and clinical negligence matters;

Educational Maintenance Allowance of up to £30 a week abolished;

Health in Pregnancy Grant (to help malnourished pregnant mothers) abolished;

Child Benefit frozen for 3 years

Sure Start maternity grant abolished for 2nd and subsequent children;

Reductions in access to Working Tax Credit and various other benefits cut;

Child Tax Credit proposed by Labour abolished.

Subsidy to Remploy to provide disabled people with work abolished;

and this is by no means an exhaustive list.

1 million more people on zero hours contracts

Jalima Mon 14-Nov-16 15:47:07

Is anyone on this thread actually qualified to post on here?

(including me, of course grin)

durhamjen Mon 14-Nov-16 15:55:03

There's a debate in parliament at the moment about the bedroom tax. Like Damien Green, there are none so blind....

The mayor of Salford did not believe the figures about the homeless in Salford, so he went out on the count.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/salfords-mayor-didnt-believe-homeless-12168778

This is what he found. Of course, you can hide your heads in the sand if you want to, but it won't make the problem go away, any more than the problems seen in I, Daniel Blake.

Jalima Mon 14-Nov-16 15:55:53

I don't think you're allowed to post on here either .....

there may be a rarified few

durhamjen Mon 14-Nov-16 15:59:02

This is what happened to the family who are in I, Daniel Blake. They were in homeless accommation before they were sent to Newcastle.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/1000-homeless-children-emergency-manchester-12120902

The real Daniel Blake was from Manchester.

durhamjen Mon 14-Nov-16 16:00:27

The number of children in emergency accommodation doubled in a year in Manchester.