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What to call the UK?

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trisher Sun 30-Oct-16 12:12:53

OK if Scotland leaves the UK when we leave the EU we are going to need a new name. It can't be England because we still have Wales and N.Ireland but we certainly won't be a United Kingdom any longer. Any suggestions for a suitable name?

thatbags Sun 30-Oct-16 16:48:59

in charge of

Jalima Sun 30-Oct-16 16:54:11

Scotland would be a separate country joined by land to the United Kingdom.

Not 'the rest of the United Kingdom' but The United Kingdom.

Jalima Sun 30-Oct-16 16:56:57

The United States of America has a land border with Canada, part of the United States is contained by Canada, and the United States of America has a land border with Mexico to the south.

Just the same as it would be if Scotland was a separate country.

Jalima Sun 30-Oct-16 16:59:48

why not just keep calling it England - why break the habit of a lifetime?
Granny23 grin
where are you from? England?
Wales.
Well, that's England isn't it?

trisher Sun 30-Oct-16 17:41:05

Continuing to use the term would mean all the dictionaries would need to be amended as they currently list Scotland as part of UK. Interestingly enough apparently the full title by 1921 Act of Parliament is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Judthepud2 Sun 30-Oct-16 17:47:22

'The British Isles includes the whole of Ireland too.'

? A word of warning Jalima. Don't ever say that to someone from the Irish Republic! It wouldn't be very popular! ?

thatbags Sun 30-Oct-16 20:56:45

It shouldn't be a problem for the Irish. The Celts and Gaels were the original Britons, weren't they?

thatbags Sun 30-Oct-16 20:57:55

That's why these isles are called the British Isles. Not because of all the tribes that came after.

Judthepud2 Sun 30-Oct-16 21:02:13

The Irish do not regard themselves as British! Don't even think of going there! Seriously! Just don't.

grannypiper Mon 31-Oct-16 06:52:48

Scotland wont be going anywhere. The majority of Scots voted to stay and the majority of Scots cant stand the sight or sound of Nicola"mary doll" Sturgeon.So we will still be the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

J52 Mon 31-Oct-16 08:52:38

I must have missed the vote on Nicola Sturgeon, where 'the majority of Scots can't stand the sight or sound of Nicola'

It wasn't well publicised! How many people voted?

rosesarered Mon 31-Oct-16 09:37:57

grannypiper grin

Hippywitch64 Mon 31-Oct-16 10:30:43

I really hope Scotland never leaves we're right on the border in Cumbria and feel more scottish than english tbh my doctors in Scotland as its the closest and brilliant.

RobtheFox Mon 31-Oct-16 10:33:54

I have from time to time to complete forms for Foreign Governments on line. Frequently they request one chooses from a list one's nationality but do not offer British, English, Scottish, Irish or Welsh but simply "United Kingdom"! Seems like we Brits are not the only confused ones!

Jalima Mon 31-Oct-16 11:04:40

It shouldn't be a problem for the Irish. The Celts and Gaels were the original Britons, weren't they?

The Irish do not regard themselves as British! Don't even think of going there! Seriously! Just don't

They aren't British as we know it nowadays - but geographically mainland Britain, Ireland and the islands are The British Isles.

The latest research into Irish DNA has confirmed that the early inhabitants of Ireland were not directly descended from the Keltoi of central Europe. In fact the closest genetic relatives of the Irish in Europe are to be found in the north of Spain in the region known as the Basque Country. These same ancestors are shared to an extent with the people of Britain - especially the Scottish.

Cosafina Mon 31-Oct-16 11:26:56

I've decided that if Scotland and Northern Ireland break away to stay in the EU (lucky things) then the UK will become EW!

I believe the EU wants to deal with the UK - but will they want to deal with EW?

Jalima Mon 31-Oct-16 11:35:52

and what about the Eurovision Song Contest? shock

Ana Mon 31-Oct-16 11:38:14

That's nothing to do with being in the EU! grin

Skullduggery Mon 31-Oct-16 11:42:00

Little Englanders.

I hope Scotland does leave the U.K. and I'll be applying for a new passport soon after, via my Scottish hubby.
I was born in England but really wish I wasn't. I think England is a complete embarrassment these days, not unlike Trump.

Jalima Mon 31-Oct-16 11:44:02

Little Englanders.
[groan]

what about the Welsh?
I don't think they would like to be called little Englanders
shock

Where's ab when you need her?

Ana don't you think the Eurovision Song Contest is of supreme importance? Mind you, should be OK, all those lovely Welsh voices.

Jalima Mon 31-Oct-16 11:44:56

sorry, Ana
I didn't mean to downgrade your name

gillybob Mon 31-Oct-16 11:45:20

Jeez this thread is verging on racist.

I was going to add a comment to this thread but following the nasty comment from Skullduggery i don't think I shall bother.

henetha Mon 31-Oct-16 11:48:45

It's always going to be Great Britain to me.
And I am proud to be English, no matter what others might say.
But I love Scotland and hope it stays in the U.K.

Barmyoldbat Mon 31-Oct-16 11:55:15

yes Trsher you are rightabout the meaning of united but we would still be a united kingdom as we would be united with Wales and Ireland. LadyGracie, I would mcve back to Wales if I could, we seem to wantto return to ourroots as I was born in Wales

Judthepud2 Mon 31-Oct-16 12:07:11

Yes Jalima to my knowledge the Irish are descended from the Gaels (themselves immigrants ) who originally came over from what was known as Galicia, in Spain. However, I think these were a branch of the Celts, just a different one from the Welsh/Cornish/Breton variety.

We are all a big mix of races anyway. I'm half English on my mother's side. And they were descended from the Normans (immigrants!)

My warning re: British Isles to include Irish Republic is well meant, not a joke. If you are ever in Ireland, just better not to.