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Wobblybits Wed 28-Sept-16 07:20:47

Who next, depressing news about yet another high profile person (Sam Allardyce) has been found to be less straight and honest.

We seem to get frequent disclosures about, and prosecutions of, so many people that we look up to and admire, sportsmen, politicians, statesmen, entertainers etc etc. If it's not sexual offences, it's bribery and corruption.

I find it all very upsetting, who can we trust ? sad

NanaandGrampy Wed 28-Sept-16 11:13:36

What does make me wonder about human nature is that some people , who to all intents and purposes have everything - talent, money or a dream job always seem to blow it .

Its like they always want more.

And I do truly believe some of them believe their own publicity and think they're bullet proof.

Either that or they're complete idiots !!

I take your point * Charleygirl* but some of these boys/men are paid hundreds of thousands per match . They could ( if they weren't busy blowing it on wine, women and song) accumulate millions of pounds in their short careers. Where does it stop I wonder?

granma47 Wed 28-Sept-16 11:16:20

Who next? Does it matter we don't have a decent team anyway.

Tizliz Wed 28-Sept-16 12:02:50

I worked for a toy company back in the eighties and bribes presents were the order of the day - crate of wine, new bike etc. The rule there was if we were given anything it was put in the MD's office and at the end of the year we had a big raffle. Now that I work for myself I don't even get a bottle of wine, obviously my spending power is not great enough sad

Nonnie Wed 28-Sept-16 12:09:17

I don't think it is just the 'big names' who do this, many people do in small ways if they can get away with it. I know someone who wasn't charged for one of the items bought but didn't go back and tell the shop. Another time I was a passenger in a car which reversed into another, not hard, but didn't stop to see if any damage was done. It seems to be an attitude that, as someone previously said, its the 11th commandment.

If anyone is worried about who the next England Manager will be DH is available, he knows better than all the managers and all the referees. Oh yes, he also shouts at tennis players telling them they don't play as well as they should. grin

gingladys Wed 28-Sept-16 12:12:07

Don't like what he did, such a greedy and stupid man. Also don't like the Telegraph for using underhand entrapment tactics, I am disappointed in them. But I am glad they got him nonetheless.

lizzypopbottle Wed 28-Sept-16 12:21:42

I agree with everyone who commented about the obscene amount of money paid to premiership footballers. I think people with lots of money always want more. The love of money is the root of all evil according to the saying. However, if big business (that's what football is to my mind and the fans on their everyday wages pay for it), if big business is grubby, so is the entrapment used to expose corruption and the lurid reporting that goes with it. You'd think that some of these greedy men would hesitate and wonder if a deal maybe sounds too good to be true. Does the suspicion never enter their heads or are they blinded by greed?
Football fans have immense power if only they'd use it. If enough of them stayed away for a few weeks in protest at the high price of match tickets and refused to buy the tacky (but ridiculously expensive) merchandise, maybe football would become more accessible and be reinstated as the 'people's game'. Time was when the only merchandise was a scarf in your team colours, often knitted by your mum!

Balini Wed 28-Sept-16 12:27:02

I'm very disappointed in big Sam. I always thought, he was a straight talker. Down to Earth, called a spade a spade. I should have known better. None of them can be trusted. I'm glad, I'm no longer a football mad young man. I just thought, it was the poor football, that was putting me off. Now I realise, it's the whole corrupt game.

SueDonim Wed 28-Sept-16 12:40:35

There's a psychological reason for such people doing these underhand deeds. In general, they're risk-takers, which is why they've risen to the top. As such, they decide to take yet another chance because, so far, their risk-taking has led to positive results. Except this time, they're caught.

As my mother would say, pride comes before a fall.

Irma Wed 28-Sept-16 12:47:44

Why is there so much greed about, you read about it in all walks of life

obieone Wed 28-Sept-16 13:07:33

For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil.

Bible, book of Timothy.

Note, it is the love of it.

whitewave Wed 28-Sept-16 13:24:14

Listening to radio 4 this morning. Apparently SA has always been known to be greedy for money and for at least the past 9 years it has been suspected that he has been involved with dodgy deals.

You've got to ask the question -why did the FA employ him as they must have been aware if these things.

whitewave Wed 28-Sept-16 13:25:47

Youngsters must be drawn some very bad lessons from all this corruption.

whitewave Wed 28-Sept-16 13:31:28

Also the FA said that it wasn't telegraph that prompted their action, so if it wasn't then funny coincidence and if they knew why wait until he was rumbled? Why employ him in the first place.

All very peculiar.

hicaz46 Wed 28-Sept-16 13:37:53

He seems to be blaming the newspaper for entrapment. What a cheek Sam, you were wrong, greedy and doing something morally wrong.

Jeanie6 Wed 28-Sept-16 13:39:50

Fully trust no one that way you're never disappointed .

Teddy123 Wed 28-Sept-16 13:59:22

Money is the root of all evil. Power corrupts etc etc

M0nica Wed 28-Sept-16 14:28:06

Football is all about money and gambling, the game is almost irrelevant.

Donald Trump has refused to publish his tax returns, the first presidential candidate not to do so for 50 years or more. Tells most people all they want to know about him.

henetha Wed 28-Sept-16 14:32:39

What a stupid man. He wanted this top job all his life and then he goes and blows it away like this. Power really does seem to corrupt. It seems to me to be greed combined with a sort of 'showing off'. And then he has the nerve to complain about entrapment!

Irenelily Wed 28-Sept-16 14:54:57

Have just read in paper, he is getting a 6milion payoff!!! Can that be true? Talk about rewarding wrong doing!

Juggernaut Wed 28-Sept-16 14:57:03

I've always had a soft spot for Big Sam! I met him years ago, and just fell for him, he was so nice to spend time with, and seemed a genuinely nice man.
I am SO disappointed in him now!
Yes, he was led on, yes he was hung out to dry, yes there was an element of entrapment......but really, how very stupid to have put himself in that position in the first place!
I feel really let down by his silliness and greed, not what I expected of the man at all!

Sheilasue Wed 28-Sept-16 15:31:26

Donald trump is a dangerous Sam Alladarce is fool. That's the difference.

Spangles1963 Wed 28-Sept-16 17:07:29

Is there a sport on this planet where there isn't some sort of corruption going on?

hulahoop Wed 28-Sept-16 17:13:27

Why do people with more money than they can ever spend want more they are always the ones who try in some way to fiddle the system . I agree with you lizziepopbottle it's not just football prices we could alter a lot of things if we stuck together and refused to pay ridiculous prices from cost of theme parks , cinema ,s by not going for a while when you read what the top footballers and payoff that bankers etc get it's quite sick when a lot of people who work probably harder than them struggle to live week to week rant over

Hattiehelga Wed 28-Sept-16 17:22:58

My DH always says that footballers' brains are in their boots these days - seems Managers are the same.

MadMaisie Wed 28-Sept-16 18:00:45

The thing that surprised me most is that he didn't seem to think he had done anything wrong.