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A glottal stop too far

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KatyK Tue 13-Sept-16 10:32:35

Some of these TV presenters cannot speak properly at all. Bradley Walsh on The Chase asks every contestant 'If you was to win some money today, what would you do with it?' It drives me mad.

merlotgran Tue 13-Sept-16 10:23:23

Couldn't agree more. I also can't understand why TV presenters and newsreaders are adopting what my English teacher used to call, 'a shock of two vowels' - In other words prouncing THE as THA before a vowel which causes a kind of hiccup in the sentence.

Tha audience instead of Thee audience for example.

Grannyknot Tue 13-Sept-16 10:22:31

When I read this morning that Angela Rayner, shadow education secretary, said that Theresa May's grammar school proposals, if implemented, would be "de'rimen'al" - how do you hear something you read? confused smile

I'm a stickler for articulation as well. My nephew's girlfriend was here with him one day and said something like "su uh uh uh" (solicitor). When they left, I tried and tried to mimic it but for the life of me couldn't say it. grin

GrammaH Tue 13-Sept-16 10:13:30

DGS age 3 is the master of the glottal stop & he knows he's doing it & that I hate it! I had given him some bacon & was busying myself whilst he demolished it in double quick time. "Oh" I said" where's all that bacon gone?" The reply " I e' ' i' ' ". So I said " I ATE IT" cheeky reply - " I ATE IT all up and IT is in my tummy"!!
He knows I will correct him & anticipates it, but it's not easy as his mum(DDIL) & her mum are both guilty I'm afraid.

Lindajoy Tue 13-Sept-16 10:08:08

I agree. Regional accents are great but I just cannot stand the so-called "estuary English" that seems to be so prevalent today. It is just lazy!

Everthankful Tue 13-Sept-16 09:56:10

I cringe at this lazy ways of speaking every time I watch Eastenders. It has nothing to do with the accent, just the complete lack of the letter 'T' , as in waa-e, instead of water
and the lazy speech in general. I love listening to regional accents from all over the country, even though I do struggle with understanding some of them!

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 13-Sept-16 09:29:47

I think the politicians do it to make out they are 'down on the street' with the rest of the population. Agree it is toe curling.

I do a good line in Welsh. It only sometimes goes over to Pakistani.

shysal Tue 13-Sept-16 09:13:53

I cringe when I hear George Clarke (from Channel 4's Amazing Spaces etc.) say ar'itect to describe his profession. He comes from the North East, which probably accounts for it. I do love to hear regional accents though! If I hear one for a short while I soon find myself thinking in it. My mother was a farmer's daughter from North Yorkshire, where, as a child, I used to find the shepherds impossible to understand.

Christinefrance Tue 13-Sept-16 08:30:01

I agree regional accents are great but lazy speech is not. I dislike people trying to adopt a regional accent when clearly they are making fun or trying to curry favour.

Bellanonna Tue 13-Sept-16 08:04:35

That really is sloppy. I didn't hear it but would have cringed. I love regional accents too and if Angela Rayner were a "proper" cockney then I suppose the missing t would be acceptable, but as far as I know, she's not.

thatbags Tue 13-Sept-16 07:58:38

I'm a pronunciation snob. Actually, no, I'm a stickler for articulation. I love hearing different regional accents, but I also like clear speech, speech with well articulated words whatever the underlying accent is. Is it just me or is there an increasing tendency for sloppy speech full of glottal stops where there used to be lovely sharp Ts?

When I read this morning that Angela Rayner, shadow education secretary, said that Theresa May's grammar school proposals, if implemented, would be "de'rimen'al", I cringed. My cringing was not about the effect of more grammar schools, which is a separate issue from what I'm talking about here, but the abuse of the word detrimental.

My hearing is very good (as yet) but I find it takes longer for me to understand sloppily pronounced words. Perhaps it's because too much of my brain is having to translate unfamiliar words into forms that have, to me, greater clarity.