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Are the baby boomers the most selfish generation in history?

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AllYoungPeople Wed 20-Jul-16 01:46:55

You vote to cut free education, all the while increasing pensions and end of life NHS care. You stopped housebuilding (NIMBYs), and made even owning a house an impossible dream for most young people.

Then you Brexit us, stealing the future we wanted for ourselves, while you won't even get to see the effect.

You will go down in history as the worst, most selfish generation in the history of the UK. The books about your arrogant mistakes and stupid voting are already being written.

One choice now, vote to cut the NHS and pensions, if you don't, you know how the future will judge you. Selfish idiots.

Ginny42 Wed 20-Jul-16 05:28:45

It is naive to assume that the Granny generation are to blame for the recent vote to leave the EU. Many of the Brexit voters I know, or have heard being interviewed on the media saying they wanted out of Europe, are in their 40s and 50s.

I voted to remain, as my employment relies on direct funding from the EU; much of my daughter's income relies on that too and I would have liked my young grandson to have enjoyed the benefits of studying/working anywhere in Europe when he's old enough. I was well aware of the effects of the withdrawal of research funding to our universities and the probable removal of the finance base of this country when the banking passports are removed - so not much you can tell me about the way the vote to leave the EU will affect young people now and of course, future generations of Britons.

However, in response to your claims about clogging up the NHS, I would say that I doubt there are too many baby boomers in our A&E Depts every weekend with drink/drug related injuries, or are responsible for the need to deploy large numbers of the police force to maintain order on the streets of our towns and cities every Friday and Saturday night, costing a fortune.

Yes, we're living longer and my wish is that my worst fears, and clearly yours too, will not come to pass and that you too will enjoy a long and happy life. Yes, there will be many challenges, but I wish you much success and happiness.

Anger can be a dynamic emotion if you use it as a means of seeking solutions, resolving issues or venting frustration but please don’t allow the anger to linger and leave you a bitter person. Grasp any opportunity to make the best of your life. After all, many of us on Gransnet grew up in a post WW2 Britain, long before being in the EU, yet here we are still very active and enjoying life.

Anya Wed 20-Jul-16 05:44:21

What an arrogant and misinformed little shit!

Anya Wed 20-Jul-16 05:45:31

And he certainly doesn't speak for AllYoungPeople.

durhamjen Wed 20-Jul-16 05:51:47

I never see Cameron, Osborne, Gove and Hunt as baby boomers.
It's their policies you are railing against. I've never voted for that in my life, and refuse to take responsibility for them.
My husband died at 65, so he's not responsible, either.
You do not speak for all young people, at least not the ones I know. Your OP strikes me as very selfish.
I didn't vote Brexit, either. If all young people had voted we might not be in this situation.
I hope you voted.

Anya Wed 20-Jul-16 06:22:57

Personally I'm getting a bit sick of this wingeing, whining from a generation who have been brought up to expect everything 'I want it and I want it NOW!'

Their sense of entitlement is beyond belief.

Our generation never had any of the expectations many of this lot take for granted. We had to make do and mend, save up, accept relatives cast off furniture, look after our own children. We were not to proud to take any job that would pay the rent or feed the children.

Now we're expected to offer free child care, be an interest free banking service, pay for this and that for GC, and so on. And we get blamed by this overweight generation for clogging up the NHS. The generation who blame 'immigrants' for taking the jobs that the average young Brit would consider beneath them.

Fortunately not all your generation are as mean spirited, selfish and 'me, me, me' as you are.

Greenfinch Wed 20-Jul-16 06:55:01

Actually you deserve to be ignored.If you are genuine,I can't believe what sort of parent you will make. Get your act together please.

morethan2 Wed 20-Jul-16 07:03:01

Your really on one aren't you. Stamping your feet, throwing ridiculous accusation about, making silly assumptions. Put all this effort into doing some research. Join a political party and campaign. You could start here by asking us rather than accusing us, you'll learn a lot by listening. Like I said on your sister post I was shocked by what I heard by asking " why did you vote as you did"

NfkDumpling Wed 20-Jul-16 07:25:48

I wonder how old this naive person is? And did s/he do any history at school, or just slept through it?

Otherwise s/he would know that there was no NHS when most of us were born; only 10% of children (in my area that is - with a strong bias towards boys) went to grammar school and had thus the chance to maybe go on to university; vast majority of children were out of school and working for peanuts at 15; and after the war the horrendous lack of housing dwarfed today's shortage.

We are the ones who worked to put this country on its feet again and now quietly and freely provide child care and old age care for our families. I bet s/he won't do the same.

sunseeker Wed 20-Jul-16 07:35:14

Perhaps the OP should dig deep, find a bigger set and start taking responsibility for his/her own life and stop expecting everything to be handed to him/her on a plate.

sunseeker Wed 20-Jul-16 07:41:35

just noticed there are several similar threads started by the OP, obviously an original thought of his would die of loneliness (why do I have a feeling the OP is a boy).

suzied Wed 20-Jul-16 07:42:42

Is ageism any different from racism? Blaming a whole group of people indiscriminately for your own perceived woes? sounds a bit like " immigrants taking all the jobs/ houses/ clogging up,the NHS etc. ", only replace immigrants for older people. Let's cut all their benefits and then it will all come to us etc...

NfkDumpling Wed 20-Jul-16 08:15:54

S/he has to blame someone. I voted out. And stand by it. I'll take the blame!

hildajenniJ Wed 20-Jul-16 08:19:02

Hello AllYoungPeople.
Do you have grandparents? How did they vote in the EU referendum? Are fit and well, or do they have medical problems which are being treated by the NHS? Do they own their own house? Will your parents inherit it on their demise? You can't just go around making these sweeping generalisations without thinking of those nearest to you.
I work in a large supermarket employing mostly young people. When the referendum result was announced they almost all cheered having voted leave! Get your facts straight, and think before you post.

mumofmadboys Wed 20-Jul-16 08:29:00

Don't you think it is a tad selfish to start lots of threads AYP and try to dominate a forum for older people? One thread would have been plenty. Another example of the me,me, me generation!!!!

f77ms Wed 20-Jul-16 08:31:25

This person just posts then disappears ,I think they enjoy a bit of drama wink

DaphneBroon Wed 20-Jul-16 08:35:21

No.
Now get back to your X box or Pokemon thingy which your parents probably bought, in your home which is possibly theirs, in your (supported) holidays when our generation had to find a job, in your expensive jeans and trainers which cost more than a week's pension each, and grow up
#loadofbollocks.

NannyDee Wed 20-Jul-16 08:40:33

I wish there was a like button on here. Your post says it all Dapne, hear hear!!

NannyDee Wed 20-Jul-16 08:41:39

And to answer the OPs question... NO!

Greyduster Wed 20-Jul-16 08:44:18

Daphne ?????

Marmark1 Wed 20-Jul-16 08:53:04

Well done all,much better than I could have put it.

Grannyknot Wed 20-Jul-16 09:13:38

...and don't feed the monster.

breeze Wed 20-Jul-16 09:30:09

I'm afraid I'm simply too selfish to reply to you. I let Anya say it all for me. Anya, great reply.

GandTea Wed 20-Jul-16 09:34:38

Come on GNers, be nice to him, he says he needs help, do we usually ignore a cry for help.

My advise, get off your arse and get a job.

Nelliemoser Wed 20-Jul-16 09:35:15

AllYoungPeople Get your facts straight here. "We" did not vote for charging for higher for higher education it was a government idea and government ministers make the legislation not individual voters.
I have always been a labour voter or sometimes voted Lib dem as they are always in second place in my constituency which has been solidly Tory for years.

We are largely the generation born into a welfare state. We could stand a chance of getting better educated and healthier. It is since then certain generally the more right leaning governments have peeled back these safeguards.
It is since then the government has designed the tax system to unfairly benefit the wealthier and recently cut back welfare sytems. Blame the ghost of Margaret Thatcher for starting that decline.
Rich and unethical bankers virtually gambling with banks money caused a huge financial crisis around 2008.

The best way of making a a fairer society is through the tax system. I am not talking about taxing the wealthier until their BMWs rattle, but more tax bands throughout the system. Less tax loopholes etc.

Listen AllYoungPeople The public vote for political parties they do not vote for individual pieces of legislation.
Anya is spot on here. Get yourself properly educated about the last 72 yrs. And if you want any sensible debate stop being so bloody rude. It is quite possible to debate contenious issues without resorting to childish insults. Grow up.