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Why Labour is haemorrhaging

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thatbags Wed 06-Jul-16 22:30:54

What leadership skills?

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thatbags Wed 06-Jul-16 22:30:25

That would be the ideal situation, broon. Somehow I don't feel too hopeful about it right now. Seems to me Labour is almost having another militant tendency moment what with Momentum and Corbyn just not getting it about needing MPs' support/belief in his leadership skills.

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Tegan Wed 06-Jul-16 22:08:17

'Those posters'?

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obieone Wed 06-Jul-16 21:11:05

If you are not one of "those" posters, then I apologise.

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DaphneBroon Wed 06-Jul-16 20:46:18

hmm

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obieone Wed 06-Jul-16 20:42:43

The referendum.
eg the types of poor who were interviewed on the Panorama programme.
[You too know what I mean, so no further detail necessary].

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DaphneBroon Wed 06-Jul-16 20:37:38

But on the other hand, Corbyn was supposed to be all together with the poor, but he campaigned the other way

A simplistic if not spurious comment - could you explain in what way Corbyn's sympathies have not been with what you call "the poor" (do you just mean ordinary people? Working people? The unemployed?)
What campaigning are you talking about anyway?

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Anniebach Wed 06-Jul-16 20:29:49

No, labour will come through this , if they can Corbyn out , if not , I don't know

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obieone Wed 06-Jul-16 20:20:31

The Conservatives have always been divided on the EU. So nothing new there.

Does anyone think that Labour will split into two?

I didnt used to think so, but am now not so sure.

But on the other hand, Corbyn was supposed to be all together with the poor, but he campaigned the other way.

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DaphneBroon Wed 06-Jul-16 20:13:15

Is Labour haemorrhaging? Twisting itself into knots admittedly, but better now than 6 months before an election. Get it sorted, provide a meaningful and effective Opposition while the Conservatives keep on digging an ever deeper hole?

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obieone Wed 06-Jul-16 19:22:40

Possibly the best article I have ever read.

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thatbags Wed 06-Jul-16 19:09:40

Insightful article from Quillette. Comments interesting too.

An extract:
"In Britain, the task is to marry metropolitan modernity with English small-c conservative culture, and to fuse them into a common sense of national purpose. This would mean acknowledging and incorporating all the things both London and Brussels elites have dismissed as anachronisms: tradition, a respect for settled ways of life, a sense of place and belonging, a desire for home and rootedness, the continuity of relationships at work and in one’s neighbourhood."

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