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Rosabella Fri 17-Jun-16 10:39:05

Hello All,

My husband and I are retired and have downsized and my Son and Daughter-in-law of two weeks (mid 30's) have come to live with us "temporarily" which is all good, I'm happy to help them through a transition period.
They have brought their cat with them which is hiding in my closet, in their bedroom. I have nowhere else to hang my clothes and was going to suggest to my son he will need to buy a rail for their clothes and hang them in the spare room which has no closet but space to put a closet or rail. One of the difficulties of them moving in, is they have so much stuff and I don't have extra chests of drawers or wardrobes for their clothing.
After my husband asked my son not to have the cat in the closet and after I have asked both son and DIL not to permit the cat in the closet, they will not adhere to the request. Their cat is an indoor cat and a shredder.
Initially they said the cat would 'live' in the spare room which is very large and it would eventually learn go outside when it felt comfortable but now it has settled in their bedroom in my closet.

I have 3 dogs and feel that allowing the cat here when it lashes out at it's owners never mind the rest of the family, I think I have been more than generous to accept the cat but am anxious about my dogs eyes being injured if the animals meet.

Here's my question. As they have both heard the request not to have the cat in the closet at least three times and will not adhere to the request, what do I do?
Their response is that the cat is scared and feels safe there. My argument is that if it is not permitted in the closet it will find a new "safe place"
I feel disrespected. I feel this is a bad start and I'm already being challenged by my DIL and Son. This is the only request I have made which to my mind is non negotiable. But I'm beginning to feel I will have to vacate my closet and buy a clothing rail for myself and put it in another room for piece of mind, when really all they have to do is keep the closet door closed so the cat cannot enter.

How would you deal with this situation?

chocolatepudding Fri 17-Jun-16 19:26:17

I am sorry if I upset anyone with these ideas

Rehome the cat - it doesn't get on with humans let alone a baby or the dogs.
The cat is PTS - sorry
The cat lives in a cattery but this delays it settling into a new home which might be abroad - will the cat go with your DS and DIL?
I guess the cat currently lives in the bedroom, hiding in the closet and just has contact with DS and DIL. Here in the UK I use a difuser with some stuff called Feliway which calms cats down. Put a difuser in the room and see if the cat settles down. you can also get a spray Feliway. You can also get a dog version to keep your dogs calmer. If after a few weeks the cat has calmed down then you can try letting have the run of some more of the house but your dogs will have to be shut in somewhere.
You will have to buy a clothes rail or cheap wardrobe for your clothes.
If DS and SIL and baby are staying with you you will need a cat net and you will have to be vigilant 24/7 sorry.

Maggiemaybe Fri 17-Jun-16 19:36:09

We're blessed with Angel, our inappropriately named moggie. Hates visitors and hangs around tempting them to stroke her then lashes out. Hates children and likes to get close to them so she can hiss and spit. Loves us with a true respect for the hand that feeds her though, so we put up with it. I don't know what the answer is to your nasty cat, but I wouldn't want it in the same house as a baby. Shut in that wardrobe seems the safest option for now.

WilmaKnickersfit Fri 17-Jun-16 19:42:03

I think chocolatepudding makes an excellent point. What are the plans for the cat when they go abroad? I feel sorry for everyone, but the cat needs a settled environment and it doesn't sound like that's on the horizon any time soon.

Rosabella Fri 17-Jun-16 19:58:48

If Jinglebellsfrocks feels this way and I quote:-
"Oh. You've said they're small. Release them all and let them fight it out?"

and to quote jinglebellsfrocks

"I think I will get off this thread. I am having a little difficulty in taking it seriously anymore."

Then I will be the one to leave this forum because I do not think it's a safe place to express myself. What I don't need right now is someone telling me that they cannot take my concern seriously.

Thank you, to those who have given me positive advice.

Nelliemoser Fri 17-Jun-16 20:06:26

Rosabella To be honest I would also feel you should tell your son and daughter they need to rehome the cat,or put it in kennels, while they are looking for a new home.
A distressed cat is probably scared stiff by the doggy smells about the house even before they are introduced

I can see this all ending in disaster with an almighty falling out between you and your "lodgers".

Jalima Fri 17-Jun-16 20:21:27

Poor cat
It must be scared stiff

Jalima Fri 17-Jun-16 20:22:06

I do not think it's a safe place to express myself
confused

jevive73 Fri 17-Jun-16 22:04:37

You could try suggesting that it is cruel to the cat to be around 3 dogs. They might have a friend who could keep the cat for a while. If not suggest they put the cat in a cattery. It sounds like a hard to love cat. Perhaps they might warm to the idea of rehoming the cat. A neorotic cat and newborn baby could be a very risky situation.

phoenix Fri 17-Jun-16 22:16:50

What is the story behind this cat? How long have they had it, how did it come into their life?

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 17-Jun-16 23:09:43

I gave you really good advice OP. (Get a cheap wardrobe (I even linked to a thirtynine quid one!) Put them, the cat and the wardrobe in the large spare room.)

You totally ignored me. Rude. moon

f77ms Sat 18-Jun-16 06:19:08

Leave the cat where it is , get some Feliway to calm the cat down. The idea of getting somewhere to hang your clothes elsewhere is a good one . I have had cats all my life and usually there is a reason why they are aggressive . The poor cat is terrified hence hiding in the wardrobe . Try not to make too much of the situation if this is just temporary , it will cause bad feeling which may not be able to be put right . It is a difficult situation for you but nothing is insurmountable with a bit of give and take on both sides .

Willow500 Sat 18-Jun-16 06:34:40

I agree with the comments about moving the clothes out of the closet or you could try making the spare room a safe zone for the poor cat which must be terrified. If you can get it in there give it a box with bedding which it can hide in, a litter tray (presumably an indoor cat which is using one already), food and water and definitely keep the dogs away from that room. It also needs some playtime to tire it out each day. I have an aggressive cat - only last night she chased my other one under the bed as he tried to hide and I ended up dripping blood on the floor from a scratched leg as I accidentally got between them. The cat will also pick up on the tension it's causing which won't help. It's not an ideal situation but hopefully only temporary for not too long so keeping the peace between you all is important in the long run. I'm sure by the time the baby comes everything will have calmed down but a baby net will help. Good luck!

thatbags Sat 18-Jun-16 06:52:15

I think pets that attack people should be put down. When our gander got so aggressive that Minibags's friends didn't want to play in the garden, even though he was behind an electrified net fence, we ate him.

He was a traumatised animal. Not his fault. Long story. But I just don't think you should have aggressive animals in people's houses or gardens, and especially not if there are kids around. It's asking for trouble.

Why do you store your clothes in a separate bedroom from the one you sleep in? Walk in dressing room?
Why did you put your guests in there instead of in the spare room?
Why don't you move your clothes? Isn't it a bit rude, even in your own house, to be wanting to go in someone else's bedroom for your clothes all the time?
It's possible to survive without a wardrobe and with just a clothes rail. I know because I have done that for the last ten years.

Jenty61 Sat 18-Jun-16 07:01:35

the cat has to go! its not fair on you or your dogs to put up with it... its your home so your rules...sounds like the cat has behavioural issues behaving like it does and it will only get worse...

Soniah Sat 18-Jun-16 09:24:08

Until a couple of weeks ago we had a rescue cat which came to my daughter when he was nine. He was a scratchy bitey indoor cat but gradually calmed down though was still inclined to lash out sometimes when he came to us aged eleven. He was allowed out and soon got used to it loving his freedom and eventually went from being quite standoffish to being a real lap cat and very affectionate. You can teach an old cat new tricks with calm and patience, fear and picking up on the owners and other people's tension seems to be the problem here. One thing is sure, you won't be able to put up with this until next year without falling out.

Soniah Sat 18-Jun-16 09:24:46

We had him for another four years

Neversaydie Sat 18-Jun-16 09:31:05

I would hate having a litter tray for someones else's house cat too. I love cats-we have two and they come and go through the cat flaps as they please.Litter trays only if they have to be confined to the house for some reason. Yuck.Its not a natural life for an animal so no wonder its edgy .
I doubt the cat will adapt well to a baby.My beloved cat sudennly started swiping at our three-year without provocation and had to go and live with my inlaws.He did die not long after so it may be illnes/age made him intolerant

I think they need to rehome it and your DIL needs to put her expected baby first .But appreciate its hard for you to suggest!

Seasidenana Sat 18-Jun-16 09:40:48

In my experience stressed cats start to mark their territory by urinating on the carpet. Regardless of male or female and regardless of whether they have been neutered. The smell is horrendous and very difficult to get rid of.

sillup Sat 18-Jun-16 09:42:00

Agree with Aggie. Your house, your rules! If not acceptable then find somewhere else to live.

Skweek1 Sat 18-Jun-16 10:00:22

Your house, your rules, agree with Aggie. I lived with MIL when first met DH and it was always difficult and stressful. I have been a "cat person" all my life, although love dogs to bits and if circumstances allowed us to have pets, would not hesitate to have both a dog and a cat. My first cat as a kid, a pedigree Persian, was one of the nastiest anti-social creatures you could ever meet, but I adored her! Cats are wild animals, can't be trained, want to feel in charge and know they rule their pet humans. What are DS and DIL going to do about said feline when they go abrad? - if thy are going to take it with them, suggest temporary cattery, if not now is the time for them to approach cats' rescue with a view to finding it permanent loving home.

Joyfully Sat 18-Jun-16 10:01:22

Don't quit the forum Rosabella. Sometimes some people have a viewpoint which Is in conflict with ours. Just forget it and read all the positive messages you have received.

You asked for advice, some of which you might disagree with. That's what advice is.

We have taken in our sons dog as it was not getting on well with new baby, feeling left out I think as dog was my sons before partner and baby. That was in January, meant for it to be for a few weeks! I feel as though we are doing our bit as they live 150 miles away so cannot do as much grandparenting as we would like. Son keeps saying shall we have her back, but I think baby is much more important right now, and dog is settled here. Your son may think that if the cat settles, you may want to keep it if they live abroad at some point. Maybe a night out for you all, in a neutral place so you can discuss any difficulties and how you can all overcome them. Your son and DIL are lucky to have really kind parents who will take them in. Shows how nice and caring you are. Hope they appreciate you in other ways.

moobox Sat 18-Jun-16 10:13:41

I would say that if you get them to buy a cheap wardrobe, it shows them in a polite way how the current situation with it won't do.

My mum and dad once had their DD, SIL, grandkids, their clutter, AND their maid move into her spare rooms. I know it sounds ridiculous but they had lived in a country where you have maids, and had brought her with them out of kindness, as her employment was keeping her family in the Philippines going. The silly thing is that my mother is very house proud and couldn't cope with the maid doing anything, nor the thought of clutter even behind a closed bedroom door.

After a few weeks, a local short term holiday let on a longer term deal was the answer for them, until they sorted their life out and moved away again. The maid was employed by them for a while afterwards, but is now happily married to an English postman, complete with family of their own.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 18-Jun-16 10:22:03

I feel like that about my DD's (weekend use only) bedroom moobox.

annodomini Sat 18-Jun-16 10:25:44

Rosabella, please don't let jingle drive you away. She's been around so long that most of us just don't take her seriously. Hope you get your cat problem sorted out without any further bodily harm. I have come across 'unpredictable' cats in my time. I agree that his ill temper stems from his not being able to roam as cats naturally do. Sadly, some cats are not cuddly and never will be. Is he a neutered tom?

Tegan Sat 18-Jun-16 11:10:52

Could you buy a very large dog crate to keep the cat in for part of the time. If you cover it with a sheet it will make it a 'den' for the cat and it might start to regard it as a sanctuary.You could then let it out at times when the dogs are safely contained in another room [or out walking]. Also use the Feliway [sp]plug in as suggested. Only problem with a crate would be where to put the litter tray,as it probably wouldn't want to use it in it's 'living area'.