Feeling rather sorry for The Queen

Rosina, I agree they had no choice of birth but they have choice how they live their lives

OMG. WE seem to have the worst of GN in yet another thread, why can't you all be amiable instead of squabbling like a load of school children.

GrandTea, do you mean we should ignore personal attacks , not defend when accused of things which are not true?

So why did you find jingles comments about chips so funny GandTea? Was that 'amiable'?

Tegan, on this forum it depends on who is being mocked ,

Just one chip Tegan.

ab do you really think that if the queen gave all her wealth to housing the present day homeless on our streets, there wouldn't be more come along to take their place? Homelessness mostly down to break up of family relationships. In other words, human nature.

That post is presented with all the amiability I can muster on a damp old day in June. and Mwah.

Sorry Luce!

We have no idea what her wealth is Jingle. So we ignore the homeless etc because it's just how it is

Well, I don't ignore the homeless. Dunno about you missis.

I can't sort out al the problems of the human race, and I doubt if the queen can either.

Back to the

Tegran, try reading my post properly, I said "hear hear" I never said it was funny, get your facts right before coming back at me.

Will leave you to argue amongst yourselves, better things to do.

But you agreed with Jingle that I have a chip on my shoulder GrandTea, I found it offensive that you joined the ranks of mockers . Perhaps you would explain why feeling strongly about something equals having a chip on the shoulder ? Others have opinions different to mine , do they also bear a chip?

I agree with you Ab and I haven't got a chip either. I believe the monarchy to be an expensive and outdated mediaeval institution. Why in a democracy should one family, by reason of birth, be elevated above everyone else? I would prefer to be a citizen rather than a subject. I know that this is not a popular view because the queen is well liked, but in an hereditary system the mad or bad may pop up in the future, as has happened in the past!

Lazigirl, thank you. I don't care about the wealth they inherited , it's the costs to the country which in my opinion shows a lack of morality

Yes queenie is well liked, no one knows anything about her apart from a speech she made sixty nine years ago , and she loves corgis and horses

Rubbish! We know loads more about her than that. Although it may not have reached you in deepest darkest wild and woolly Wales.

Meow Jingle

Purrrrrr.

What do we know about the queen? Know , not what the PR machine releases , I know she loves dogs and horses, can stop a trial just by saying she remembered something but didn't have to appear in court to give this evidence , attends church every Sunday

Jingle, all my cats never purred whilst their claws were out

I doubt we would get rid of the homeless if we got rid of the monarchy.

Or is there evidence to prove that those countries who no longer have monarchies and now have presidents, with all the expense that entails, no longer have homeless or extreme poverty?

As a pragmatist I think they are good value for money, a lot cheaper than a presidential system and I, for one, could not stand the months of build-up every four years before a presidential election and all the money thrown around and the cheering, jeering crowds. So unseemly, such a waste of money, and causing instability to the country as a whole.

It is bad enough having all the elections and all the layers of government that we do have without adding another elected layer in place of the monarch.

in an hereditary system the mad or bad may pop up in the future,
Possibly, lazigirl but they do not have political power do they. Unlike mad, bad Presidents who persuade their daft allies to go to war with them.

Mine did ab. Used to purr whilst kneading his claws into my knees.

Good point j. Rome has perhaps more beggars and rough sleepers than London. No nasty monarchs there using up all the nation's wealth.