little Englander

regional differences - differences between regions

TerriBull, try reading the posts not just counting them, I do not 'bash the English ' I do criticise some but these thankfully are the minority

I don't hold grudges Elegran so find it difficult to explain something I have never experienced

Banging on about a past injury for ever and a day. What is your definition? I am sure you have one.

Only out of curiosity in this case given the title of the thread. A prime opportunity for English bashing whilst simultaneously extolling Wales, it's language and wonderful people which is synonymous with most of your posts.

A grudge Elegran? What is your definition of a grudge?

Who said that it was about "we" ? Why take everything as about "we"?

To answer the implied question -

"Celebrate" defeats? No.

"Don't let go of" and carry a grudge for ever? Yes.

Gosh Teribull, you count posts ?

"Little Englander" an ephithet applied in criticisms of British Nationalists, English Nationalists or English people who are regarded as xenophobic and overly nationalistic and are accused of being ignorant and boorish" Wikepedia Unflattering characteristics I would have thought, however, according to one GN who has returned to this thread thus far, 93 times, "Little Englander" is not an insult at all.

Overtly nationalistic as we well know, can only apply to the English, how strange because I think one could be forgiven when through reading through swathes of this thread that all roads lead to Wales.

No Elegran not the same, we celebrate defeats?

Thank you Alea , true - who else

Can you elaborate on what you mean by regional differences obieone ?

3rd paragraph Elegran. Not sure I agree witht that.
The rest I probably agree with.

There may be regional differences to what is meant.

Vielen Dank, Alea; mit den Akzenten geht es nun gut.

Mit freundlichen Grüssen,

Grump von Pa

Oh Donald J. Trump, anniebach, who else?

I don't see any disagreement, ab

I said "called "Little Englanders" for being blinkered about the rest of the world, it is quite different - the "little" applies to their minds and horizons"

You say " cannot accept we have moved on from Britannia ruling the waves" That is included in their blinkered view of the rest of the world.

You also say "Little englanders either deny history or dismiss it as all in the past , yet celebrate victories in the past" Surely that also applies to those who cannot let go of defeats away back in the past too?

We hear at frequent intervals, for instance, about the crushing in the past of other languages, when they have had help to be returned to their rightful place for native speakers. If the English are to shut up about past victories, should others not shut up about the past too and build the present, and the future?

Who is Donald J Alea?

I don't think thatbags specified what she found insulting just the principle.
I agree about "kleine Engländerin" being * descriptive* , I was referred to as "die kleine Schottin" but I still found it patronising!
Translated, however, it becomes something else as Little Englander does have a specific connotation and has morphed from referring to anti Imperialist philosophy to its more modern meaning of xenophobic, inward-looking and lacking awareness of or sensitivity to the world outside.
A bit like Donald J's attitude.

PS grumppa how äre yöû gètting øn with yœúr ãccēnts?

Thatbags, insulting people or even trying to insult people is not for me

I don't agree Elegran, for me a little Englander is a person who cannot accept we have moved on from Britannia ruling the waves , this isn't pride in England or being Welsh , I am proud of Wales and being Welsh , never thought Wales is superior to other countries but equal to other countries , many English people think the same of England . Little englanders either deny history or dismiss it as all in the past , yet celebrate victories in the past

I don't find it an insult, ab. You'd have to try harder than that to insult me . I think some people regard it as an insult and, for the reasons elegran so rightly mentions, it can be. I think if a Welsh or Scottish person says it of an English person, for instance, one wouldn't be mistaken in thinking they were meaning to be insulting. Whether one were insulted or just thought the speakers idiots would depend on the individual at whom it's directed.

Is it ever acceptable to describe a human being as an animal? you ask, ab. I insist on my right, and yours, to describe Philip Green and his ilk as fat cats.

Calling a short Englishwoman a little Englander in Germany refers to her height/size and nationality.

When people are called "Little Englanders" for being blinkered about the rest of the world, it is quite different - the "little" applies to their minds and horizons. That could be taken as an insult by those who don't feel that they have those limitations.

Reference to screws , tools and measurements of English equipment had me thinking conmichael was indeed trying a con.

thatbag claimed it was an insult, I don't agree , no more an insult than describing a person right/left wing in politics