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Naughty Nanna.......but doing the best I can!

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Katek Fri 04-Mar-16 09:30:36

I have allowed dgs to watch more tv than he's normally permitted. It's been a great help in letting me tidy, prepare his food etc, then we sit down and play until lunchtime. He's quite grizzly and argumentative as well (not his usual) so I'm heading off confrontation with him. There are times and there are times, and I don't think now is the right time to be firm with an unwell, grumpy, missing his mum, tired 2 year old. I'm also not in my 20s/30s any more! I'm justifying it to myself I know, but I do feel guilty.

Caroline123 Sat 05-Mar-16 19:42:13

Don't feel bad,he wants a rest if he's not well.
We don't want to be busy if we are ill, kids are the same.the teacher 11 is away with the fairies and to be honest the sort of comments she made give teachers a bad name.my daughter and mother of my 3gc is a teacher and accepts when her children are ill they need rest and relaxation, not stimulation and learning.
How I hate po faced folk!

Caroline123 Sat 05-Mar-16 19:55:48

Are you serious or are you using this forum for 'sport'as and ex work colleague used to say.
.seeing everyone get upset and infuriated by your comments?

grannylyn65 Sat 05-Mar-16 20:05:06

You should see some of the other ones!!!!

Deedaa Sat 05-Mar-16 20:55:30

Now I only have GS2 in the afternoons and after a morning at preschool and possibly a Music with Mummy or Kindergym session I feel he's probably done enough educational stuff and he's quite happy sorting through a few toys by himself and then settling down to Peppa Pig, Peter Rabbit and anything else that takes his fancy. Both he and his brother have large and wide ranging vocabularies. If he's ill we watch The Gruffalo and Room on the Broom for the 95th time.

peaceatlast Sat 05-Mar-16 21:17:31

I am a retired teacher and grandma to five little ones. 3 are at school now and doing exceptionally well. I look after my one year old and 3 months old grandsons and they will be cared for by me in exactly the same way as the older ones were. I always use my experience and intuition re activities during the day and, yes, that involves some tv as it is not always possible to play with them all the time. I do things my way and I know it is appreciated by the parents. They probably get more one to one interaction than they do on their nursery days. I won't be made to feel guilty and really do wonder about how seriously the teacher on here actually should be taken.

Deedaa Sat 05-Mar-16 21:28:24

I think the one to one is so important peaceatlast I think having a discussion on the sofa about why Daddy Pig was being so silly is just as valuable as sitting with a book or doing some counting.

Rowantree Sat 05-Mar-16 21:36:27

My daughter watched loads of TV when she was a child, recovering from major surgery (several times) and in pain. For her it was snuggle time with me, and we watched all sorts of things. She tells me that's where her interest in history started: there was a lovely programme about the Great Fire of London we recorded for her and she got hooked on finding out about it which helped while away otherwise tedious long recovery days when she couldn't go out (her leg was in a huge Ilizarov frame). We also watched Disney cartoon videos together and an animal cartoon series about a forest, the name of which eludes me now. We talked, we sometimes stitched, talked about our favourite places in the Yorkshire Dales which is somewhere she loved to visit, and that helped her cope with her anxiety and depression. I wanted home to be a haven, exploring things which interested and inspired her. She also wrote a great deal, though I couldn't always make out what she'd written! Two decades later, after a long haul emotionally and physically, she did reasonably well at school, despite serious illness, depression and pain, got a degree against all the odds and later an M.A in magazine journalism - and is now self-employed writing, which she loves, and has a little daughter of her own. She probably spent less time in school than most of her peers, and we managed as best we could, but television and videos played an important part in her life and she's none the worse for that. Who gives a stuff how early a child learns to read, as long as they do, and that they learn to love books and approach life with excitement, curiosity, kindness and compassion? They learn that kindness and compassion from their families first and foremost and I'd bet that's what they'd remember more than the fact that they were taught their tables a year earlier than their friends.

Newquay Sat 05-Mar-16 22:33:15

My dear departed Mum used to come and look after our 2DDs during school hols. I used to work til 2pm. I never laid down any rules. Sometimes I would arrive home after a 20 minute uphill walk esp in winter, open the door, the heat would hit me and I could hear my Mum and 2Ds laughing and giggling on the sofa usually watching some film or other (like Mary Poppins). Both DDs now married professional women with their own families and they have such happy memories of their much loved Nana. They enjoyed just relaxing in each other's company and certainly had enough work during term time. So good for you Nanas out there who are just enjoying your GC in such a relaxed way?

Newquay Sat 05-Mar-16 22:36:09

And, much as I love Peppa Pig and the lovely warm family they have, why oh why do we allow men to be made such figures of fun? I cringe the way that Daddy Pig is always made to look the fool. We've fought for years for women to be taken seriously and we should not now allow men to put down.

Luckygirl Sat 05-Mar-16 22:36:25

I am at a loss (and somewhat exasperated) by this trend to rush children through their childhoods - as if it is not short enough - and only one crack at it.

Small children learn by living and being a part of what is going on around them. They do not need formal activities.

Rowantree Sat 05-Mar-16 23:23:19

Agreed, Luckygirl and that's why I loathe OFSTED, the Nazional Curriculum and this constant testing, testing, testing right down to the tinies. My friend, a childminder, has just recently been OFSTEDed. How ridiculous. What an utter waste of money and time, and extremely misguided. angry

starlily106 Sat 05-Mar-16 23:40:37

i was just turned 60 when i got custody of my lovely gd. who was 32 months old. i must admit i was worried a bit about how i would manage, but having her to look after worked out so well. she loved watching t.v. but she also enjoyed 'helping' me in the garden, washing up, dusting, any thing i did she wanted to do too! i certainly don't think that watching Teletubbies or any of the other programmes she liked made a great impact on her. we did lots of things together, like visiting the local city farms, Beamish openair museum, Alnwick castle, Bamburgh castle, and we both joined a nature group which she loved. she is now 21 and is a lovely young lady. i am so proud of her, and pleased at the way having her changed my life.

Teacher11 Sun 06-Mar-16 06:05:30

Keep your hair on people. I don't suppose a bit of rubbish hurt anyone but I still think a lot of daytime TV is unsuitable for little ones. Of course programmes like 'Sesame Street' are great. They devised It to bolster literacy skills for the 'left behind' children in America.

Incidentally, my small children were shown 'Jurassic Park' and 'The Terminator' at childminders and I was not a happy bunny. I had expressly forbidden my children from seeing the former as I thought it too frightening and it never ocurred to me that anyone would show the latter to a small person so I never mentioned it. Still, the children have made it to adulthood without having a breakdown and there is no situation you can't learn something from.

I agree with everyone in this thread who says that love comes before literacy and that ill children just need to 'be'. However, in the early stages of language acquisition when children's brains are 'programmed' as it were to absorb language and grammar it is crucial to talk to them, listen to them, interact and do anything you can to foster prereading and reading skills. The children whose families do that gain an advantage in school they never really lose.

Nelliemoser Sun 06-Mar-16 10:18:10

My DD tries to limit TV as much as possible, but when 3yr old DGS1 was really miserable and poorly with chicken pox he was curled up on the settee with mum watching Peppa Pig, Paws Patrol and other such things. Paws patrol is quite informative.

It is hard to concentrate on much when you feel poorly
When mine were poorly they were tucked up on the settee with a blanket and the television on.
Mind you there was not wall to wall childrens TV then.

DGS1 did argue that watching television would make him better.

Jalima Sun 06-Mar-16 10:29:07

Keep your hair on people. Why? Some perfectly reasonable posts on here from very sensible-sounding grans who were advising another anxious gran that it is OK to let them watch tv if they feel unwell - or indeed if you want to keep them out of the kitchen when you're cooking them a nourishing meal.

I doubt that Katek had stuck on The Terminator for him confused
And I am sure all the grans on here spend plenty of time playing games, doing puzzles, play doh, out at the park, etc when they are well.

The most they can really absorb when feeling unwell (yes, it was chickenpox here too Nellie!) is Calpol and an antihistamine to stop the itching, or perhaps an episode of Topsy and Tim Get Chickenpox smile
Do pigs get chickenpox too?

Otherwise a bit of good daytime tv never did any child any harm as far as I can tell.

Jalima Sun 06-Mar-16 10:30:54

Oh, here we are!!

www.dailymotion.com/video/x1zcv51_peppa-pig-not-very-well-with-subtitles_tv

felice Sun 06-Mar-16 12:16:34

Teacher11 I find your points on language skills interesting, I am assuming you also include other languages.
DGS has 3 languages at the moment and speaks Portuguese with his best friend, he just seemed to pick it up, no problem as DD speaks it.
This morning he watched Postman Pat and Thomas the tank engine while we had breakfast and got ready for Church, service in English but many languages spoken.
Now he is eating lunch and getting a treat of watching Scooby Doo in Dutch.
When he goes back upstairs it will be French spoken.
The school system is very different here, starting at 3 finish at 18.
Therefore TV tends to be a weekend, or unwell treat.
One of the French TV channels has excellent puzzle programmes which he likes to watch when he has a snack on retuning from School at 15.30.

Perhaps if British schools were more open to some of the continental systems you would not feel the need to lecture on here, bet that comment has opened a can of worms.

Jalima Sun 06-Mar-16 12:44:00

I asked DGD2 which language she would like to choose to watch her dvd - she said 'French please'.
However, after about five minutes she decided that English would be better.
She doesn't speak French yet (just English and Welsh) grin

Elrel Sun 06-Mar-16 12:58:44

Awww! She is clearly willing to explore possibilities. Lovely anecdote!

Elrel Sun 06-Mar-16 13:01:46

Hmmm, so we must talk to and listen to children.
Teacher, tread softly, you are teaching us to suck eggs IMHO!

NfkDumpling Sun 06-Mar-16 14:46:45

I did hope I would learn some Spanish with Dora the Explorer, but her accent is is terrible!

Jalima Sun 06-Mar-16 15:41:22

However, in the early stages of language acquisition when children's brains are 'programmed' as it were to absorb language and grammar it is crucial to talk to them,
I find it difficult to get a word in edgeways with DGD2

Jalima Sun 06-Mar-16 15:42:08

However, DGS and DGD1 are a bit quieter now that they always have their noses stuck in books grin

annodomini Sun 06-Mar-16 15:53:07

That's transatlantic Spanish for you, Nfk! grin

willsmadnan Sun 06-Mar-16 16:04:33

keep your hair on? How patronising! So, Sesame Street is/was fine despite being an American import, with all the attendant language/cultural problems. Sorry teacher11 my children never watched Sesame Street for those very reasons. It was UK produced programmes or nothing. I guess Thomas the Tank Engine is considered non-PC by educationalists now, with it's references to a fat controller!