Pushed for time or just lazy?

Wot? No time for breakfast?

presumably these are the same parents who drop their children off unfed, no breakfast. Surely, you could pull on a tracksuit while your child eats their breakfast? I was even more shocked that some parents came to assemblies and meetings at school in the same unwashed and undressed state. I thought the letter was polite, well reasoned and no reason at all for all these stupid irresponsible people to whinge about how busy their lives are and how she (the head) is a snob. One of the morons who was protesting is a stay at home mum of a ten year old, unbelievable, she doesnt even have to get ready for work.

None of us want to sound like old farts but honestly if it is a 'fashion' it is a bad one, if it is poor organisation it needs support to get it sorted. If parents are at the school in PJs then it suggests they are not off to work so possibly have more time at their disposal than a working parent who has had to get dressed and organised to get to work.
I strongly suspect the head knows these parents well and this is part of a package of strategies to try to provide some structure and boundaries for the children.

We have all had those crisis days when everything has conspired against us and we have rushed out less prepared for the journey than we would like ...but everyday??

Yes, I once drove the two dcs to school in my pyjamas, wearing wellies and a long mack. I don't remember why but it was a one-off and I didn't get out of the car.
I often sorted my horse out wearing pyjamas under my tracksuit trousers and anorak - at 5.30 in the morning I hardly think there would be anyone, around other than DH, on our farm!

Gill57 Do you have a shower and get dressed in the mornings,before having your breakfast?

Yes, I thought you might do!

You are a very good girl.

One day last week, I queued in the Bank behind a middle-aged lady wearing pyjamas, dressing gown and diamante flip-flops at 4pm!

My neighbour is a post-grad student. When at home she wears her PJs all day. I think the young call it 'lounge wear.'

The only time I go out in nightwear is when feeding next door's cat, when I go through our back doors via the shared side passage. I can then go home for my leisurely morning bath.

Hi jings as I go to work every day I certainly do get dressed! But I dont have my breakfast until I get to work, advantages of working on my own, I have a toaster and a kettle. I am no paragon and often spend weekends in sweatshirts and jeans with no make up on. We have all had bad hair days and scruffy days, nobody expects perfect grooming at the school gates, but it takes no time at all to pull on a pair of jeans and a hoodie does it?

Oh! Doesn't count if you have to go to work.

I would never have gone to the school gates without full face makeup. Wouldn't be like that now. Not worth it.

I have been known to go to an emergency call in my nightie albeit with my bloomers under and a dress on top.
This was if it was really urgent in the wee small hours.
( we did night calls in those days)

It just occurred to me..maybe they have got dressed into their PJs?? Maybe they sleep in the buff and PJs is dressed ?

I love my PJs and at the weekend I will stay in them for longer than in the week..when I usually have to be up and out... might give PJs a go tomorrow when I drop the DGC to school

I think it's time for fashion dudes to start making PJ bottoms look like jogging pants. End of problem.

I used to sleep in joggers at Cub camps so that I was 'dressed' for night emergencies. Usually needed several layers of clothes just to be warm enough anyhow.

Criticism about wearing an article of clothing for two days! OMG! How shocking! NOT. Good grief! What a silly person that HT is. How do people that silly get to be headteachers?

Lot of depressed people I hear at work, stay in their pjs all day even if they have to go out.
Reminds me of the ladies who wore rollers in their hair all day to be ready for the evening

GillT57 , going back to one of your previous posts on this thread, I doubt if you would see such a sight in Waitrose!

phoenix . There is a fascinating thread on MN about this subject, when you can wade through all the expletives that is. An amazing number of people getting antsy about a headteacher telling them how to run their lives without appreciating the point of the letter. Even more interesting is the tales of some places where it is usual (?) to drop children off and then go to supermarket in said pyjamas. So much so that shops have started putting up signs asking people to not shop in nightwear or beachwear. Well worth a read. My grandmother would have described them as common.

I agree with the headteacher. It takes 2 minutes to pull on a top and bottoms over Pj's and you're respectable. Been there, done that, I although not for the school run.

I think the Mum who forgot her teeth might be excused because she said it was a one time thing. Removing children from the school though is simply ridiculous. That said, I don't think the dress the Head is wearing is suitable for school with the split at the front - she must be constantly pulling at the two bits of material. She looks smart, but the wrap of the dress is a mistake.

Makes me laugh to read the guy in the photo supports the school - look at his t-shirt!

I thought i'd read somewhere that supermarkets were banning people from shopping in their pjs? If you think the headmistress's dress is not suitable for school you should see the skirts that the headmistress of GS's school wears. If they were any shorter she could wear them as a belt!

How does she keep decent?

Oh, I thought it may have been in Cardiff whee the mum may have been popping in to Tesco in her pjs after dropping the kids off at school
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8484116.stm

I do remember when I had DS the GP who came to stitch me up afterwards had stripey pyjama bottoms poking out of the bottom of his trousers!

It was about 4 in the morning.

It is just wrong. I can think of the sort of parents who might do this but as others have said it would not take long to put on jogging trousers etc over your PJs if you're really running late.

It's a matter of parents needing to set standards for their kids to indicate that appearances for attending a work environment such as a school or a job are important.

It is the sort of thing young people need to understand before they are let loose in the job market.
Even if you are in what might be considered a lowly job it is important to look as if you know what you are doing and take your job seriously. Stuff like not chewing gum when you are serving in a shop and being able to communicate politely and appropriately with other staff and customers.

I often slob about the house in baggy jogging bottoms but I would always change before going out to the shops.

thatbags I am quite silly

It's been a growing "fashion" over a few years, to wear "going out pyjamas" seems to be almost a badge of honour in some places.

I'm with the majority here, and the head teacher. It's lazy and set's a dreadful example for children. Setting a good example and helping children learn the value of routines is a basic part of parenting - isn't it? You get up in the morning, wash your hands and face/or get in the shower, clean your teeth, get dressed, clean underwear and socks. Have some breakfast and set off on your day.

I haven't looked at mumsnet but I can imagine their are many 'furious of folkestone' type posts.

My father in law used to go out in his pj's with his trousers over the top I had to walk my sons to school when they first started and didn't wear pyjamas back then so would never have thought of going out in nightie and slippers! I don't wear anything in bed now and put pjs on only when I get up. I usually end up putting the bin and recycling box out in my dressing gown but that's generally about 6am so no one sees me! Life seems so much more hectic for families these days but I still don't know why some mothers feel they can't get washed and dressed before doing the school run and no one should go to the supermarket in their dressing gown and slippers.