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Lona Sat 05-Dec-15 17:15:01

Having just watched the news, I'm hoping that all our Gn members in Cumbria and the North are safe. I don't think I've ever seen so much widespread flooding.

rosequartz Mon 04-Jan-16 15:20:37

Perhaps it's all the weeping .....

durhamjen Mon 04-Jan-16 22:57:08

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-flooding-how-a-yorkshire-flood-blackspot-worked-with-nature-to-stay-dry-a6794286.html

This is interesting. It's Pickering. I've been there when it was flooded.
Very nice town when it's not flooded, as in the summer last year.

durhamjen Tue 05-Jan-16 23:22:31

Our village on the news today. The only village in Durham completely cut off for a time. Rain stopped now, though.
£2 million pounds of flood relief last year to stop the houses and shops being flooded, but it was the local farmers coming into the village and manning the pumps that worked. Otherwise the houses would have been inundated again. Thank you, farmers.

durhamjen Tue 05-Jan-16 23:32:02

Take that back. It's raining again.

durhamjen Wed 06-Jan-16 21:33:31

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2016/01/06/a-woeful-response-to-flooding-as-the-climate-crisis-hits-home/

Environment Agency said that flood defences did not fail; they were simply "tested beyond design".
So that's okay then.

durhamjen Wed 06-Jan-16 22:36:29

The Environment Agency knew 12 years ago that there would be a problem if the Foss barrier failed in York. There was a report on it.

Ana Wed 06-Jan-16 22:43:51

Pity the Labour government of the time didn't act upon that report - surely they knew about it.

Anya Wed 06-Jan-16 22:59:26

Pity indeed.

Anya Wed 06-Jan-16 23:03:30

But Ana you must realise that wasn't a real Labour government that was a Blairite government. A real leader, like Corbyn, sacks perfectly good, solid labour MPs, like our Pat McFadden, who has never voted against the party in his 12 years (unlike some I could name) angry

Iam64 Thu 07-Jan-16 09:03:32

I'm also angry about John MacDonald referring to a "right wing clique" of Labour MP's. How very dare he!

Nelliemoser Thu 07-Jan-16 10:13:46

Durhamjen Thank you! That is the first article I have heard or read that has actually defined possible solutions to lessen these flood dangers

It has really annoyed me that none if the news programs or politicians have actually explained possible solutions.

The policians, all of them, make promises, issue sound bites and I doubt if any of them at all have much idea about the actual solutions presented in the article.

I am still a little sceptical about the real value of river dredging though. The rain does not just fall into rivers it falls on all the land in the catchment areas and when it is falling at the rate it has been it causes damage in the small streams etc long before it flows into the rivers.

Many of the streams in the hilly areas Lake district Snowdonia have rocky mountain streams that are not dredgeable and in fact have little soft sediment. It is largely rocky scree as the last glaciation has denuded a lot of the overlying soft sediment in these hilly areas, certainly compared with flat river valley areas.
The speed with which the rain pours off these hard unabsorbent rocky areas means that they can carry a serious load of debris with them which further batters the river beds and gouge out the rivers picking up more softer sediment which is the stuff that gets carried much further down into the rivers as a storm is happening. This rocky debris carried by the water is what has destroyed those roads damaged in Cumbria.

In flatter less steep areas and high moorland land with better sediment levels, say the Yorkshire Dales there should be more more room to provide space to slow down and disperse this water.

The Lake District is steep, very rocky and very close to the river outlets there is less ground available here to slow down this water flow at all.

Alea Thu 14-Jan-16 06:57:13

GEORGE CLOONEY has become victim of the winter floods, as the grounds of his £10 million home have been submerged by water from the Thames.
High water levels have led to the Thames bursting its banks and flowing into the garden of the actor’s 17th-century Grade II listed house.
The water is standing yards from his front door and the Environment Agency still has flood alerts in place for the area surrounding Sonning-on-Thames, Berkshire.
(From today's DT. )

With the likes of Theresa May as a neighbour I wonder cynically (moi?) whether the politicians will be donning their wellies to show solidarity and manning the flood defences in the same way they weren't in Cumbria /Yorkshire/Scotland recently?