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Luckygirl Sat 14-Nov-15 22:14:00

“This will be our reply to violence: to make music more intensely, more beautifully, more devotedly than ever before.” Leonard Bernstein.

Before the Schubert concert I sang in tonight this quote was read out in memory of those who died and were injured in Paris.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 14-Nov-15 23:37:09

Sod that. It's going to take more than music. God help us all.

That was a ridiculous post. Sorry, but I really think it was. hmm

vampirequeen Sat 14-Nov-15 23:44:02

I think that's a wonderful sentiment.

Violence only begets more violence. We've tried fighting fire with fire for thousands of years and still haven't learned that it doesn't work.

Bellanonna Sat 14-Nov-15 23:47:37

LuckyGirl I think that was a very appropriate quote to have been read at your concert tonight. Why on earth would anyone think otherwise confused

Anniebach Sat 14-Nov-15 23:52:07

A most appropriate post Luckygirl , so much talk of more killing all day, the quote was needed , thank you

merlotgran Sat 14-Nov-15 23:55:38

Music stirs the soul and soothes the heart. Nothing wrong with the sentiment but anger and hatred will be hard to quell at the moment.

WilmaKnickersfit Sun 15-Nov-15 00:41:47

I think it's a lovely way to mark what happened in Paris and that it will have touched those at the concert.

Saturday night was the 75th anniversary of the Coventry Blitz. Hundreds of people attended a concert and took part in a ceremony to mark the anniversary of the Luftwaffe bombing raid on Coventry, which left 568 people dead and most of the city centre in ruins. As part of the annual Peace Festival in the city, a chain of people passed a light to each other, finishing at the cathedral which was lit up in blue, white and red to mark Friday's attacks in Paris. I think that was poignant too.

TriciaF Sun 15-Nov-15 10:00:33

I wouldn't call this music (Angels of Death Metal rock band):
www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3KnjucdOCk

TriciaF Sun 15-Nov-15 10:02:06

ps this was the group that was playing at the Paris concert.
All members of the band survived.

Granny23 Sun 15-Nov-15 10:10:42

Although their Merchandising Manager was killed.

ninathenana Sun 15-Nov-15 10:22:27

TriciaF not my idea of music either. However,

Thankfully all members of the band survived

ninathenana Sun 15-Nov-15 10:24:07

R.I.P. to all those that didn't, and a speedy recovery to those injured.

rosequartz Sun 15-Nov-15 10:34:00

I remember visiting an open air auditorium in Estonia years ago - this is where the Estonian people used to gather to sing national songs in defiance of their Russian masters. The day we visited was the fifth anniversary of the day the Russian tanks had left.

rosequartz Sun 15-Nov-15 10:40:09

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singing_Revolution

The power of song, although I think there were other factors involved too.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 15-Nov-15 10:40:54

Shame on that band for not dying.

hmm

Luckygirl Sun 15-Nov-15 10:47:25

I think you missed the subtlety jbf - what the quote is saying is that, faced with violence, we have to maintain culture and civilization and hold true to those values that make us a decent nation. There is an excellent article to that effect linked on another thread here. I predicted that this would be your response to my post and - bingo! - there it was.

Thank you for posting the information about Coventry Wilma - it sounds as though this was a very moving and appropriate ceremony. Were you there?

Tricia - yes, I thought the band playing in Paris was a bit unfortunate, especially its name, which does not exactly represent the best in Western culture - but at least they are allowed to play, and there is no censorship, however grim they might be.

Luckygirl Sun 15-Nov-15 10:49:25

Thank you for that fascinating link rose - the power of song indeed.

vampirequeen Sun 15-Nov-15 10:50:28

That's a horrible thing to say Jings. You want to condemn them for their choice of band name?

Stansgran Sun 15-Nov-15 10:53:50

May be the venue was chosen by the killers for the name of the band?

TriciaF Sun 15-Nov-15 10:55:15

I mentioned the name of the band because I thought it was ironic.
But I wouldn't be surprised if the terrorists picked on it deliberately.

ninathenana Sun 15-Nov-15 10:58:20

I know jings is mire than capable of speaking for herself grin
but I took it that she was referring to TriciaF post at 10.02 where her choice of words unfortunately implied a different meaning to the one intend. As I said in my post at 10.22

Stansgran Sun 15-Nov-15 10:59:04

And why do bands choose names? Mainly nowadays because we have to be shocked or we don't look up and listen. The cute play on words Beatles type have long gone.

vampirequeen Sun 15-Nov-15 11:01:22

Maybe the terrorists chose the venue because they knew it would be full of young people and they wouldn't look out of place when they went in.

ninathenana Sun 15-Nov-15 11:02:01

I'd have thought it was more a case of size of venue an the amount of death and destruction they could cause. I think the bands name is an unfortunate coincidence.
Perhaps I'm just nieve.

ninathenana Sun 15-Nov-15 11:02:45

Crossed posts vq