Clocks going back

I hate our now short days friends and family say I definitely suffer from SAD. Thinking of buying one of those light thinggies. Anyone tried on, did you feel any benefit?

Got up at six because I needed the loo!

Let the dogs out, had a cuppa, let the chooks out then unlocked the door to the Granny Pad to see what the plumber had been up to yesterday. I was pleased to feel a waft of warmth because there is no heating on yet - we light the woodburner every day but let it go out in the evening. The building is super insulated so although it was cold last night it had retained its heat.

Result!!

I don't touch the clocks until after the hour has changed, as I can never remember which ones adjust themselves and which need me to fiddle about.

Thosw ho are concerned about losing an hour's pay - how would you have felt in September 1752?

www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/Give-us-our-eleven-days/

It hadn't dawned on them that they hadn't actually worked those 11 days, or bought food, or paid rent.

Yes, spare a thought for all us insomniacs. One extra hour to lie awake or wake up earlier. I always wonder if I've set the clock correctly and wake up confused as to what the right time is.

Rather alarmed that the picture for the Gransnet link to this is a clock face showing all the numbers jumbled and to one side. This is often the way somebody with dementia would draw a clock face (I'm a nurse and this can be used as part of our assessment to diagnose the condition).

What are you implying, Gransnet?!

I agree with those who dislike the clock time change. As I'm retired I do not change my clocks until during the next day when I get most benefit from the extra hour of light Also I prefer daylight in the evenings to the mornings.

My new neighbours were doing something that involved banging with a hammer on the other side of my bedroom wall at 8.25 . I am so glad I work from home now, I hated dark evenings & trying to cross the busy road by the bus stop to get home.

Oh no! Just been reminded that when the car was serviced a month ago, they corrected the clock. Foiled again??

Thank you Elegran - very interesting

Neighbours are having building work done this morning while they're on holiday, definitely a pain.

I hate the dark evenings with a vengeance. Stick to summer time. At least if it's a dark morning you can look forward to the day but with dark afternoons it is terrible. No sense in moving the clocks at all. People in the far north (a small proportion of the population) could start school/work later if the dark mornings are a problem for them?

Let's not have summer time all year.
All the time in the world is based on GMT. We should keep the time as it is now and not change the clocks in the summer.
The working day should change, not the clock.
By the way, there is no extra hour; we still have 24 hours in the day.

Summer time is the aberration, not winter time. Don't be too quick to think it is just a few wimpy farmers in Scotland who don't want to get up in the dark, either. There is a gradual lessening of winter light across the whole of the UK, from south to north, and a variation all year in sunrise and sunset from East to west.

Every year it is evident that many people don't know that the further north you go, the shorter the winter daylight is, and the further west you go, the later the sun rises.

It is not just a matter of the clocks being an hour earlier or later, the whole day from sunrise to sunset is shorter, and the sun in lower in the sky, so gives less light.

Sunrise on Dec 22
London - 08:04am
Glasgow - 08:46am

Daylight hours on Dec 22nd
Plymouth - 08:01 hours
Manchester - 07:28 hours
Edinburgh - 06:57 hours
Wick - 06:20 hours

Sunlight quality on Dec 22nd
"In the summer it doesn’t really matter where you are in the UK in terms of the potential daily radiation because although the intensity may be less in the north, this is compensated by a longer daylength. It is when you come to the winter that it gets worse, if you are living in Shetland. In the winter, whereas we have got about 8 MJ/m2 of radiation at the edge of the atmosphere in Penzance, it decreases to about 2 in Shetland. So if you are suffering from SAD it could make a big difference where you live in the UK.

"There are important geographical differences in the amount of cloud cover, so comparing similar sorts of latitude, if you are on the Essex coast you might be expecting an annual average about 4 hours of sunshine per day whilst in the Welsh mountains you will be receiving on average 1 hour per day less sunshine. And if you live in the Scottish Highlands then you would lose another hour’s sunshine a day on average (Met Office, 2009)."
www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Sunlight+quality+latitude

I had 9month old grandson overnight so less sleep than normal . I used to work extra hour when working but also got less hour in spring so can't complain always seems to take me days s to adjust I don't like dark evenings but like autumn days .

I like the 'clocks back' thing. I didn't have an extra hour in bed, but got up as usual, then felt smug 'cos all my chores were done early. I listened to The Archers omnibus whilst catching up with the ironing at a leisurely pace.
I couldn't help remembering tho', that back in the Dark Ages when I was a student nurse, if we were on night duty when the clocks went back, we worked the extra hour without complaint - but when the clocks went forward, and our night was an hour shorter, we were expected to stay on duty to make up the time. That still rankles even after 50+ years!

Long day isn't it?

I had an extra hour chatting to a good friend in New York. The clocks do matter to me because we had a choir practice before morning service at my church so I had to be up early enough to go for the bus.

When told the reason for daylight savings time the Old Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the bottom, and have a longer blanket."

Hi Alea Don't wish to wind you up but,

You could buy radio controlled clock(s), then there'd be one less.,
like your bedside clock. Think your ipad should change back itself.

It would be interesting to find out if new car technology updates
the interior clock .

Good morning. I'm up! Been awake since five. I hate the clocks changing, it takes me days to recover my equilibrium. I feel jet lagged!

Living in the east of the U.K, I get the sun first anyway. I don't care whether they stay on GMT or BST, I just wish they'd stay put!

Jet lagged is just the word for it Nfk I am sitting here in bed with a cuppa having that hung over feeling trying to get myself up and running for Keep Fit. I am usually fine at this time of day. I shall just have to get on with it.

Nice to gave others to moan with.

Have others not gave others !

I'm so glad I'm not alone Nankate! As Elegran says, it doesn't gain anyone any extra daylight.

I understood the clocks were changed so children didn't walk home in the dark, but around here they now come out at 3.00pm when it was 4.00 when I was at school so I don't see the problem.

As for the getting in of northern cows in/ out the dark, I'm sure that, although Scottish cows are probably very intelligent, I never understood how a cow could be told it was going to be milked an hour earlier/later the next day. It must take some readjusting and complicate things for cowpersons!

I wish it would stay at GMT. If the sun is bright early on a summer morning, that is fine, we can get up earlier to take advantage of it if we want to. The winter darkening is gradual and we adjust to it. This sudden change twice a year is what upsets our systems.

I don't know why people change umpteen clocks. I have one clock and I wear a watch. Just because manufacturers build in digital clocks in everything from the toaster to the Hoover doesn't mean you need to ever look at them.