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Cannot believe this bigotry

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Katek Wed 23-Sept-15 14:04:28

It has been announced that Aberdeen is to take 100 Syrian refugees. FB is now full of bigoted, narrow minded vitriol. I'm appalled

granjura Thu 24-Sept-15 20:55:06

Jane10, it is indeed a dreadful situation- but it is a political choice that was made to cause this. This lack of housing is politically made- not out of the blue. Going back to my previous post- it is also a question of expectations. In many countries, people do not necessarily want and expect detached houses with all mod cons.

WilmaKnickersfit Thu 24-Sept-15 21:09:54

Jane10 those homeless figures are for people with a roof over their head. Not necessarily in anything like suitable accommodation, but not living on the streets.

And for those of you saying what's the point of bringing refugees here when things are already so bad, well that's simply about feeling safe. Knowing your children won't get scabies (rife in the camps) and will be warm and dry as winter approaches.

And other Middle East and Muslim countries do have millions of refugees in camps living in tents. Saudi Arabia does not, but again should refugees be the ones to suffer because of this? After all, its human rights record is well known.

Yes, long term solutions need to be drawn up, but this is about a humanitarian crisis that needs something done now, not after 6 months of discussion.

Jane10 Thu 24-Sept-15 21:17:38

I didn't say "what's the point". I posted those figures to illustrate a possible reason for some people not feeling very welcoming and being called bigoted.

WilmaKnickersfit Thu 24-Sept-15 21:28:58

Jane10 I didn't say you did confused

Anniebach Thu 24-Sept-15 22:08:05

I would rather like to slap the consultant who Mamark spoke to, I feel so cross, he did mean the immigrants else why mention them ? Is he unaware if it wasn't for immigrants working in the NHS the NHS would collapse, stupid man

Ana Thu 24-Sept-15 22:25:31

It's not actually clear from Marmark's posts whether the consultant referred to immigrants at all.

The quotation marks don't close, so that part of the post could have been the poster's thoughts on the subject, not the consultant's.

Marmark1 Thu 24-Sept-15 22:37:31

It was the consultants exact words,and he was Chinese.Or looked and sounded Chinese.

Ana Thu 24-Sept-15 22:46:11

Oh, sorry...

WilmaKnickersfit Thu 24-Sept-15 22:46:17

When I was in hospital for several weeks in March, agency nurses were everywhere and most were from overseas (going by their accents). Many travelled all over the Midlands from hospital to hospital and often didn't do two shifts in a row on the same ward. I don't know how they had the stamina. Goodness only knows how the NHS would survive without them.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 24-Sept-15 22:46:24

Yanis Varufackis on Question Time now, discussing the Syrian immigrants.

Anniebach Thu 24-Sept-15 22:52:31

So Mamark, he was one of those people you believe will deprive your grandchildren from the simple things in life ?

durhamjen Thu 24-Sept-15 22:56:37

Chris Bryant; "If you see a migrant in the NHS he's likely to be treating you, not being treated."

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 24-Sept-15 23:01:41

I can't believe someone this thread has suggested that affordable housing should be built on our golf courses! shock grin Football pitches? Parks? Cut down the woodlands? Prefabs on the North York Moors?

Unbelievable. hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 24-Sept-15 23:02:49

Yes dj. But can you understand what he's saying to you? grin

durhamjen Thu 24-Sept-15 23:04:48

Usually. Being from the North and having taught all over the country, I do not normally have a problem with accents.

durhamjen Thu 24-Sept-15 23:06:32

Rather have prefabs on the North York Moors than fracking under them or people shooting grouse. How many golf courses are there on the North York Moors?

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 24-Sept-15 23:14:12

he's a nice bloke, Yanis.

Anniebach Thu 24-Sept-15 23:15:10

A golf course is of more importance and more needed than houses for families stuck in B & B's ? Unbelievable

Anniebach Thu 24-Sept-15 23:17:41

Jingle, you find a Cardiff accent difficult to understand ?

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 24-Sept-15 23:18:21

shhh. I'm looking at Yanis.

Granny23 Thu 24-Sept-15 23:22:07

So much speculation presented as fact by the MSM it is no wonder that people are afraid of being 'swamped'. With only 20,000 refugees being accepted by the UK over the next 5 years that means only 4000 each year, who, when spread around the country will hardly be noticed. Our local Council, the smallest LA in Scotland have been allocated 20 refugees - 4 or 5 families and have already drawn up plans, had joint meetings with the local Charities who are willing to help and started the work that will be needed to accommodated the refugees.

Briefly the plan is this. They have a Council owned former care home for the elderly, currently lying empty but in good order because they have built new care homes with ensuite facilities for each bedroom. The building identified has 5/6 'units' each with 5/6 bedrooms a sitting room and bathrooms, showers and toilets. No longer fit for its old purpose it was destined to become homeless accommodation, once the Council had spare cash to convert it. Now it will be refurnished (furniture to come from the local, not for profit, furniture recycling centre) and rejigged to provide 5/6 self contained 'homes' for refugee families. By chance the building is immediately adjacent to the Social Work Department Offices allowing a point of contact for the refugees and the volunteers who want to help. There is going to be a bit of a bunfight as there is already a huge list of volunteer helpers, far too many for the number of families expected. The list includes, health professionals, teachers of English as a second language, benefits advisors, playleaders, members of the local Mosque and Christian Churches (a sizeable proportion of Syrians are Christian) - many really useful people. The charity shops will put together suitable clothing packs once they know age, sex, size. The Library service has ordered Syrian Books. The Knitting Group are piling up Scarves and Wooly hats.

What is all this going to cost? Well actually nothing from the local Council's Budget because Westminster has announced a funding package drawn from their Overseas Aid budget, which will cover all costs incurred by LAs for each refugee placed. So - no question of anyone going further back the waiting list. In fact 5/6 homes will be created and added to the housing stock at no cost to Council Tax payers.

If you don't know what the plans are in your local area then ASK your LA. Local facebook pages and letters to the local paper were extremely anti-refugee but this mood has altered now that the Council has publicised their plans and the small number of people involved.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 24-Sept-15 23:22:49

Cardiff? confused

Was thinking more Indian/Pakistan.( Going by a Welsh hospital we had to have dealings with a few years back) Not a English or Welsh doc in sight.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 24-Sept-15 23:24:15

that was to ab. (Before that huge post that has just appeared)

durhamjen Thu 24-Sept-15 23:31:01

Can you understand the doctor in geriatrics, jingl, talking about the NHS being an asset?

durhamjen Thu 24-Sept-15 23:33:19

Those who are worried about housing should read this.

www.theguardian.com/society/2015/sep/24/housing-associations-agree-right-to-buy-deal-with-government

I think it's appalling. They are trying to circumvent the will of parliament.