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Cannot believe this bigotry

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Katek Wed 23-Sept-15 14:04:28

It has been announced that Aberdeen is to take 100 Syrian refugees. FB is now full of bigoted, narrow minded vitriol. I'm appalled

granjura Fri 25-Sept-15 09:17:54

and other parts are covered with mile upon mile of pollytunnels so we can eat strawberries year round. I'd personall prefer to stick to tasty, natural strawberries in season (irrelevant? yes, but just to say they are choices). As said in Surrey there are so many golf courses and more opening- and it is a price war- some will go to the wall- and nature will very slowly take over again- and hopefully the birds and bees, unless they've all disappeared by then).

granjura Fri 25-Sept-15 09:14:36

btw jingl- some of the most beautiful and wild parts of the uk are covered with really ugly prefabs- called caravan parks- that are unused for large parts of the year- not saying it is a good idea (it's not imho). Where I lived in East Leics there was several lovely wild areas which were previously and temporarily used for POW camps and Polish refugees - all gone back to wilderness now.

Marmark1 Fri 25-Sept-15 09:10:26

Granny23.That is almost perfect.
Remember that song,with the words--What we need is a great big melting pot.
But that's in an ideal world isn't it.

Marmark1 Fri 25-Sept-15 09:03:35

Anniebach.Its the power people who will deprive my grandchildren.(unless of course we win the lottery or something)The rule makers,who will make the distinctions.

thatbags Fri 25-Sept-15 07:24:34

Good to read about your council's and local volunteers' plans to help refugees, G23.

There is no shame in not easily understanding speech that's very different in pronunciation from what you're used to. A lot of even home grown accents are very broad, vowel sounds are differnet, glottal stops more frequent than one's used to, etc. I often don't understand my own daughter and have to ask her to repeat what she has said. She sometimes speaks with the local Scottish accent (consonants dropped all over the place, vowels different from what we say at home, more elision of words, etc). If she slows down and articulates I can understand but at full speed, no chance. Just saying.

Granny23 Fri 25-Sept-15 01:04:31

Elrel I think it is from a woman called Sonja de Bruijne from Eindhoven but she may just have been the first to post it on Facebook

Elrel Fri 25-Sept-15 00:33:35

Granny23 where is that from, please?

Granny23 Fri 25-Sept-15 00:16:14

Scared

You're scared.
I'm scared.

You're afraid to die in the war in your country.
I'm afraid you're gonna bring the war to mine.

You're afraid that the limits for your escape will be closed.
I'm afraid there's a lot of people with wrong intentions will come here.

You're afraid you're not welcome in Europe.
I'm afraid you won't understand my culture (or me yours)

You're afraid that you can never go back to your house.
I'm afraid that you never want to go back home.

You're afraid that we do not want to help you.
I'm afraid you won't appreciate help.

You don't want me to be scared.
I don't want you to be scared.

Let us work together to ensure that our fears are unfounded.

(Automatically translated - apologies for any errors in translation)

Eloethan Fri 25-Sept-15 00:15:27

jingle You are misrepresenting what I said. I didn't suggest we build on all golf courses but there are 141 golf courses in Surrey and even the local residents are saying it is getting ridiculous. I certainly did not suggest that football fields, parks, moors and woods should be cleared to make way for housing developments.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 24-Sept-15 23:42:27

moon

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 24-Sept-15 23:41:48

Chris Bryant is'nt a doctor, is he? confused

durhamjen Thu 24-Sept-15 23:36:46

Yanis is being sensible now. We lost our nerve over the public services.
We should go back and think about looking at it as a public service again instead of from the financial side.
I agree, jingl, I do like him.

Anniebach Thu 24-Sept-15 23:36:40

Jingle , Chris Bryant is not from India or Parkistan, he was born in Cardiff

durhamjen Thu 24-Sept-15 23:33:19

Those who are worried about housing should read this.

www.theguardian.com/society/2015/sep/24/housing-associations-agree-right-to-buy-deal-with-government

I think it's appalling. They are trying to circumvent the will of parliament.

durhamjen Thu 24-Sept-15 23:31:01

Can you understand the doctor in geriatrics, jingl, talking about the NHS being an asset?

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 24-Sept-15 23:24:15

that was to ab. (Before that huge post that has just appeared)

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 24-Sept-15 23:22:49

Cardiff? confused

Was thinking more Indian/Pakistan.( Going by a Welsh hospital we had to have dealings with a few years back) Not a English or Welsh doc in sight.

Granny23 Thu 24-Sept-15 23:22:07

So much speculation presented as fact by the MSM it is no wonder that people are afraid of being 'swamped'. With only 20,000 refugees being accepted by the UK over the next 5 years that means only 4000 each year, who, when spread around the country will hardly be noticed. Our local Council, the smallest LA in Scotland have been allocated 20 refugees - 4 or 5 families and have already drawn up plans, had joint meetings with the local Charities who are willing to help and started the work that will be needed to accommodated the refugees.

Briefly the plan is this. They have a Council owned former care home for the elderly, currently lying empty but in good order because they have built new care homes with ensuite facilities for each bedroom. The building identified has 5/6 'units' each with 5/6 bedrooms a sitting room and bathrooms, showers and toilets. No longer fit for its old purpose it was destined to become homeless accommodation, once the Council had spare cash to convert it. Now it will be refurnished (furniture to come from the local, not for profit, furniture recycling centre) and rejigged to provide 5/6 self contained 'homes' for refugee families. By chance the building is immediately adjacent to the Social Work Department Offices allowing a point of contact for the refugees and the volunteers who want to help. There is going to be a bit of a bunfight as there is already a huge list of volunteer helpers, far too many for the number of families expected. The list includes, health professionals, teachers of English as a second language, benefits advisors, playleaders, members of the local Mosque and Christian Churches (a sizeable proportion of Syrians are Christian) - many really useful people. The charity shops will put together suitable clothing packs once they know age, sex, size. The Library service has ordered Syrian Books. The Knitting Group are piling up Scarves and Wooly hats.

What is all this going to cost? Well actually nothing from the local Council's Budget because Westminster has announced a funding package drawn from their Overseas Aid budget, which will cover all costs incurred by LAs for each refugee placed. So - no question of anyone going further back the waiting list. In fact 5/6 homes will be created and added to the housing stock at no cost to Council Tax payers.

If you don't know what the plans are in your local area then ASK your LA. Local facebook pages and letters to the local paper were extremely anti-refugee but this mood has altered now that the Council has publicised their plans and the small number of people involved.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 24-Sept-15 23:18:21

shhh. I'm looking at Yanis.

Anniebach Thu 24-Sept-15 23:17:41

Jingle, you find a Cardiff accent difficult to understand ?

Anniebach Thu 24-Sept-15 23:15:10

A golf course is of more importance and more needed than houses for families stuck in B & B's ? Unbelievable

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 24-Sept-15 23:14:12

he's a nice bloke, Yanis.

durhamjen Thu 24-Sept-15 23:06:32

Rather have prefabs on the North York Moors than fracking under them or people shooting grouse. How many golf courses are there on the North York Moors?

durhamjen Thu 24-Sept-15 23:04:48

Usually. Being from the North and having taught all over the country, I do not normally have a problem with accents.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 24-Sept-15 23:02:49

Yes dj. But can you understand what he's saying to you? grin