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How will the refugees be housed in Britain?

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MamaCaz Fri 04-Sept-15 18:27:02

First, I'd like to make it clear that this is a genuine and serious question, not a veiled way of saying that we shouldn't be taking refugees.

We keep being told (mainly by the right-wing press, I think) that we can't house the current population, and that many cheap-end hotels have already been taken over to house both British families and existing asylum seekers. So, if we can't house people now, what measures do you think the government and local councils will have to take to house a large intake of refugees?

On other threads, I know that Durhamjen has talked of how many empty properties there are that could perhaps be used. Is this a viable idea, and how many people could be housed if the idea were acted on?

I'm hoping for genuine thoughts and ideas, rather than a slanging match on the current government's record to date, if possible.

MiniMouse Fri 04-Sept-15 19:05:48

It's a minefield isn't it? I can see trouble ahead if people, who are already on housing lists, feel that refugees have jumped the queue because their need is greater. It's a very sad world at the moment sad

Marmark1 Fri 04-Sept-15 19:11:49

Well,I'm not the cleverest of people,I'm the first to admit,but I don't understand it.Should'nt they be sorting out their own country's.IE making it a better place to live. I appreciate its not the people's fault.But the powers that be.

harrigran Fri 04-Sept-15 19:26:47

Asylum seekers should be housed in temporary housing with a view to them being repatriated as soon as it is safe to do so. A static caravan park perhaps or holiday camp.

MamaCaz Fri 04-Sept-15 19:36:10

But playing Devil's advocate, aren't things like static caravan parks and holiday camps private businesses that depend on profits for their very existence? I could be wrong, but I can't really see councils paying the going rate for such accommodation. That said, are councils paying the going rate for the hotels that they currently use as temporary accommodation? I don't know!

Nelliemoser Fri 04-Sept-15 19:37:06

In some of our countries 635,000 empty homes?
www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/housing-crisis-10-empty-homes-5008151

Although, like most people, if you had been through the stress and crap most refugees have, you would probably want to live near other people know what you have been through. Many who have been through these experiences are traumatised and need emotional support.

It would help if you really feel safe and protected from potential harrassment by "the natives" who are afraid of you.

You would also probably want to live near others who can speak your native language. Although unlike most expat British in places like Spain, many foreigners in the UK seem to have a reasonable grasp of English as a second language.
Are there still any old military base housing which could be used?

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 04-Sept-15 19:40:36

Round here they've pulled army quarters down and built houses on the land Nelliemoser.

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 04-Sept-15 19:41:47

They knocked up the pre-fabs after the war. Perhaps they could do something like that as a temporary measure.

vegasmags Fri 04-Sept-15 19:42:08

Bob Geldof has offered to house 4 refugee families in his own home and Stan Collymore has made a similar offer. Good for them.

petra Fri 04-Sept-15 20:30:38

Mamacaz. I don't know about other areas in the country but on Canvey Island the company that own the caravan park are full up with people that were homeless and the rent is paid by housing benefit.

MamaCaz Fri 04-Sept-15 20:48:58

In that case, Petra, I guess there must be other similar caravan parks. I was imagining holiday-type caravan parks and forgot about the residential ones.
But would these existing sites be much use in housing large numbers of refugees? I would have thought that they were already be more-or-less fully occupied.

petra Fri 04-Sept-15 21:05:27

I would hazard a guess and say that anyone with a caravan site wouldn't need to advertise with the currant homeless situation.

Charleygirl Fri 04-Sept-15 21:45:06

In this evening's newspaper a council in London is asking private landlords to rent flats etc. Some people have offered to rent a room but apparently the migrants must have their own front door!

Ana Fri 04-Sept-15 21:50:28

Why? That's just ridiculous.

MargaretX Fri 04-Sept-15 22:42:32

I don't know what that business of having their own front door is?
Asylum seekers here in Germany are in group housing, we have lots of barracks left by the Americans and the rest will be like the old prefabricated housing. nobody is talking of putting them in houses with front doors etc. Then they will learn the language and begin to take jobs as soon as they are qualified. Actually they are faced with years of boredom and inactivity and living a communal life but there is no other way.
They will be expected to keep it clean as well, not just the women! that may come as a surprise to some of the men.

durhamjen Fri 04-Sept-15 22:51:00

www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2015-09/03/airbnb-refugees-welcome

durhamjen Fri 04-Sept-15 22:52:57

This might help the ones already in Greece and Italy.

www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2015-09/04/billionaire-will-buy-island-for-refugees

Katek Fri 04-Sept-15 23:02:48

Aren't there mothballed Raf stations with married quarters and single men's accommodation?? Lots have shut down in last 15 years or so-one beside us sold off the quarters but barracks are still there. I know it's very far from ideal but at least it would be a roof over their heads until something more permanent is sorted out.

durhamjen Fri 04-Sept-15 23:42:30

Once again, why has Cameron decided to be different from the rest of Europe?
This was the perfect chance to show he was a part of Europe. Why does he have to always say he knows best?

harrigran Sat 05-Sept-15 00:07:45

Maybe he does know best and believes like some of us that we will be voting to leave the EU.

durhamjen Sat 05-Sept-15 00:14:45

But he doesn't want to.

loopylou Sat 05-Sept-15 07:08:31

Germany has said will only take Syrians, the majority at Calais (according to the BBC) are Iraqui or Iranian, so I gues Cameron's following Angela Merkel?

I wondered why there were so few women at Calais and when interviewed several men said they'd left their wives and children behind - I was shocked until I realised not being from Syria was the reason.

No wonder only men's clothing and toiletries were being requested by some charities for the Calais camps.

thatbags Sat 05-Sept-15 07:14:12

margaretx, trust the Germans to be ultra practical smile.

Indinana Sat 05-Sept-15 09:40:53

this place in Devon has been abandoned for years and is described as 'decaying'. I wonder how much work would need to be done to it, though, to make it inhabitable as temporary shelter? There must be other places like this around the country that could be put to use.
And before anyone jumps, I'm really not saying that any old sub-standard or even dangerously neglected buildings would be 'good enough' for the refugees. But I am suggesting that maybe these old abandoned buildings might be able to be refurbished and there is enough space there to home dozens of families while they 'get on their feet'. And they would be amongst their own people, which I would think they would want at first.

harrigran Sat 05-Sept-15 11:14:00

Work to make it inhabitable ? the buildings are in a better state than most of the properties in the town where I live.