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12Michael Wed 26-Aug-15 07:48:59

Just seen the latest proposal of that possible Labour leader he wants women only carriages n trains, some of his ideas are stupid hope he does not win, because things like renationalisation of rail etc costs money, to pay for most of his ideas in his world , it would increase the basic rate of Income Tax to 35%.

thatbags Thu 27-Aug-15 07:12:41

Why is Boris Johnson's 'immigrant' status relevant to anything at all? Why, in short, has it been mentioned? Especially as the sneering negative-seeming mention was by someone who, I seem to remember, has said we should accept all the migrants currently at Calais, no questions asked.

Leticia Thu 27-Aug-15 07:27:05

Those with dual nationality are not immigrants!
My husband has dual nationality so do lots of people.

thatbags Thu 27-Aug-15 07:32:57

True. And another reason why the sneering use of "that immigrant" surprised me, as much by its illustration of inconsistency as anything. Weird.

Anya Thu 27-Aug-15 08:14:58

What on earth does 'that immigrant' mean? Are some immigrants more acceptable than others? confused

rosesarered Thu 27-Aug-15 08:26:16

No doubt it's because Boris is a Conservative?hmm

rosesarered Thu 27-Aug-15 08:28:04

I Wouldn't hold anyone's ancestry against them.His hair is another matter entirely!

rosesarered Thu 27-Aug-15 08:28:46

That goes for both Trump and Boris.grin

Cagsy Thu 27-Aug-15 11:05:01

I think he's just exploring the idea, at least he's acknowledging that violence against women is an issue, well violence in general. Corbyn frightens the media and others and so they leap on every little thing. The increase in political awareness, especially amongst young people, is a really hopeful sign after years of apathy have led us to where we are now - in a right mess. I'm not a Labour supporter but I still say thank God for someone speaking up for the poor and powerless in our society.

durhamjen Thu 27-Aug-15 11:06:21

This is another idea from Corbyn. Definitely not stupid.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/26/pfi-labour-nhs-health-service-private-finance-initiative

Anya Thu 27-Aug-15 11:11:16

I think the 'that immigrant' remark is going to be ignored. I suppose there is no rational excuse so .......

Interesting Freudian slip?

whitewave Thu 27-Aug-15 11:21:07

I am beginning to feel more hopeful that we are at last beginning to reject the awful cult of individualism in the UK and begin to think of an alternative. The sad thing is that the younger generation can never remember a time when this was not the case. With luck it will eventually be bunged into the dustbin of history as an unfortunate aberration

fluttERBY123 Thu 27-Aug-15 11:33:11

I heard that a lot of young people are in favour of re-nationalising the railways. This being because they are too young remember what British Rail was like. Cue jokes about BR sandwiches etc.

You could have women only carriages. Would it be like no mobiles carriages where nobody takes much notice of the restriction anyway? And the whole transvestite question would come up. Toilets? This would run and run. (trying to work out if a pun there.)

tigger Thu 27-Aug-15 11:57:05

What's wrong with a bit of idealism. If people feel so threatened by his popularity then Labour supporters should have made the effort to get out and vote then we wouldn't be in this pickle. As for Yvette Cooper, shame on her using the equality issue to denounce women only carriages. Perhaps we should take Jeremy Corbyn's proposal at face value in that he genuinely sees women as equal but appreciates that nevertheless we are vulnerable in particular situations.

durhamjen Thu 27-Aug-15 12:06:06

Agreed, tigger, but if more Labour supporters had gone out and voted - in fact, they did; their share of the vote increased - we would not be discussing Corbyn now, as Miliband would have been PM.

Iam64 Thu 27-Aug-15 13:16:15

I wonder how good or bad things would be now if Milliband was PM rather than Cameron.

I can think of a number of areas I wouldn't be so depressed about, e.g. Justice/Legal Aid, the NHS, mental health services, children's centres, services for children and families - the list could go on and on. I'm still not certain who will get my vote for the labour leadership (other than it won't be Liz Kendal) but I'm very pleased that Jeremy Corbyn is a candidate. It's made the whole thing so much more interesting and dare I say genuine? His gem for today is saying he'd have a fund to ensure that trusts don't get into trouble with re-paying PFI's. That and apologising forIraq - genius

durhamjen Thu 27-Aug-15 13:42:43

PFI link.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/26/pfi-labour-nhs-health-service-private-finance-initiative

I agree, Iam, genius. I also agree about Miliband. However, he had the press against him. Corbyn seems to be able to deflect press criticism, and if he has Tom Watson for deputy, he will definitely be able to deal with the press.

whitewave Thu 27-Aug-15 13:48:32

He will need a coat of Teflon if he gets the leadership. Hopefully social media will be able to provide a balance.

Anya Thu 27-Aug-15 13:54:49

Teflon? That's non stick confused

Surely you mean Velcro?

Anya Thu 27-Aug-15 13:56:05

To hold things together wink

whitewave Thu 27-Aug-15 14:05:27

No definitely Teflon so the s...t doesn't stick there will plenty of it being thrown.

Anya Thu 27-Aug-15 14:19:12

Well personally I'd prefer Velcro to hold the party together, but if it has to be s**t something else then so be it [yukky emoticon]

rosesarered Thu 27-Aug-15 14:46:46

Blair used to be called Teflon Tony.The whole lot of Labour MP's could do with some velcro to hold them together at the moment.
Why do people keep saying that so many others are scared of Corbyn and his popularity? the only scared ones are in fact, Labour in Parliament, and middle of the road Labour voters, and they are worried for good reason, as they believe Corbyn and the far left could wreck their chances at the next GE. Nobody else is bothered, and the Tories must be hugging themselves with glee! Quite a few are amused by the almost 'canonisation' of JC, and the anecdotes put about, including bottling his own jam,patting stray dogs on the head, and increasing M& S's sales of vests.Every day brings a new gem, a pearl of wisdom from either him or his camp. how did we ever manage without him? In fact, once the new leader is chosen, him or A.N.Other, things will be much less exciting.

Anya Thu 27-Aug-15 14:57:40

Emmm....Rosearered I'm quite a fan of home-made jam and as a dog lover, you might just have tipped me into the JC Fan Club.

but then again there's the M&S vests....so perhaps not

rosesarered Thu 27-Aug-15 15:36:17

grin

NotTooOld Thu 27-Aug-15 15:36:47

Do you suppose he buys M and S underpants to go with the M and S vests? If so, why not, it's what most of us do. I'd rather he patronised M and S than Gieves and Hawkes, for example, at least it goes to show he is one of us rather than one of them (ha-ha - if you see what I mean!)