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Jane10 Tue 23-Jun-15 18:24:27

Just seen the BBC news about migrants taking advantage of the strike leading to long hold ups for traffic. The men were jumping up on to lorries etc. Now there are 3000 trying to get to the UK. They didn't look like 'poor soul' refugees, quite fit and able looking Africans. What is to be done? The poor police in Calais are struggling. I don't have an answer -just wanted to see if anyone else has. Just thinking online instead of out loud (as the cats not interested!)

magpie123 Thu 25-Jun-15 11:40:18

The problem is there are genuine asylum seekers and the ones waiting in Calais to come here who are not.

soontobe Thu 25-Jun-15 11:49:08

Mental health services are already struggling too.

harrigran Thu 25-Jun-15 11:59:35

Now they are carrying tools and knives to gain access, how long before someone gets seriously injured ? The police are unable to help every lorry driver it must be very frightening for them and make them wonder whether the job is worth it.

soontobe Thu 25-Jun-15 12:10:06

I think that this situation will result in a No as regards the EU referendum. People will not want their services stretched to beyond breaking point. David Cameron may even pull out of holding the referendum.

Jane10 Thu 25-Jun-15 12:50:29

Just heard some Calais residents on the radio. One said its the UKs fault as we give benefits to all! My SIL is from SA. He's an economic migrant I suppose. He had to jump through so many hoops and pay a fortune in govt fees to eventually be allowed to stay. It took years. He met DD after that -marrying a UK resident didn't help btw. He's done well, set up businesses and created lots of jobs. However he most certainly couldn't just walk in here and hope for the best. Why should these other Africans? (genuine asylum seekers not included in this)

trisher Thu 25-Jun-15 17:02:42

It's the lorry drivers I feel sorry for. Must be a nightmare driving through all those desperate people knowing they are trying to get on your lorry and risking their lives to do it. And if they do manage to hide somewhere you will get a huge fine if they are found. Surely the Eu could set up some sort of a system to process them where they are and then send them off to countries on a quota system, returning any who don't qualify for refugee status to their country of origin.

Jane10 Thu 25-Jun-15 17:51:05

Sounds like a plan trisher. Wish they could do just that!

Luckylegs9 Thu 25-Jun-15 17:59:34

I wish we could just say no, for the next 5 years. Assess the situation then, we cannot with the best intentions keep the world and his wife. We are just a soft touch that is why they bypass other countries to get here. No one has the guts to say or do anything though, because the race card will come out again, not numbers.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 25-Jun-15 18:20:32

That's a good point soon. All this could well sway the result of the referendum.

TriciaF Thu 25-Jun-15 18:21:05

"that is why they bypass other countries" - I thought Italy and Greece had many of them, also Germany? And those from some of the N. African countries will stay in France, which already has a huge immigrant problem.
I read a report that many also land up in Malta where they are causing big problems - threatening the residents.

Jane10 Thu 25-Jun-15 18:25:42

Threatening residents is so frightening and not the sort of thing poor refugees would do. They sound like a bunch of chancers. If only they could be sifted out from the refugees and just sent back. Its also an open goal for ISIS

soontobe Thu 25-Jun-15 18:51:20

I think that the general public in this country, on the whole, dont mind sharing services.
But it becomes different if they themselves then cant get school places, jobs, health services etc.

EGNAN Thu 25-Jun-15 19:28:34

Apparently, there are 19.5 million people in N.Africa (where a lot of these immigrants are coming from) How many of these would the 'do-gooders' like to see settle in Europe? I didn't vote Tory, but thank God Cameron has refused to take the EU's proposed quota. Enough is enough!

durhamjen Thu 25-Jun-15 21:46:24

I agree with this.

theconversation.com/unacceptable-scenes-in-calais-whose-fault-is-that-mr-cameron-43854

If it's a problem in France, and Cameron wants to work with France to try and solve it, why is he annoying everyone in the EU by trying to change the rights of EU migrants?

Ana Thu 25-Jun-15 21:53:21

I agree with the Comment beneath the article.