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Things that you are scared about with the new Tory Government

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soontobe Sat 09-May-15 17:21:10

I have seen a number of posters express deep concern about the conservatives having full power for the next 5 years.

Is it worth having a thread for posters to list their concerns?

I am not sure that other gransnetters can put their minds at ease at all, as it may be a case of wait and see what the conservatives do.

soontobe Wed 13-May-15 12:35:05

We have to love everyone. It takes pracice mind you, I am not perfect.
Judge a persons' behaviour, but not a person.
Hate the sin, love the sinner.

Soutra Wed 13-May-15 13:19:27

I could tell from other threads that people were genuinely upset and very concerned

How very perceptive, not to say kind of you to sense that people were not happy with the Election result, correction some people, who of course we're not perfectly capable of voicing their own opinions .
I'm sorry, (well actually no, I'm not) but I find this totally patronising.

soontobe Wed 13-May-15 14:17:00

I didnt realise that the word patronising is how some people get out of helping others.

Soutra Wed 13-May-15 15:28:07

Well it all depends . On a forum of mature, articulate, educated , politically aware and informed men and women, one expects to be able to speak for oneself.
I certainly don't feel I need help to do this any more than I need a Boy Scout to help me across the road!

So yes, patronising is exactly what I meant.

Ana Wed 13-May-15 16:12:28

It's as though you are observing Gransnet and its members as an anthropologist would a previously undiscovered tribe, soontobe, but making an awful lot of assumptions, bad guesses and 'helpful' comments which aren't always welcome along the way!

rosequartz Wed 13-May-15 16:25:04

I am practising soon but I don't think I will ever reach perfection!
How can I disassociate some crimes from the perpetrator?

Anyway, that's a red herring.

Back to your OP

Elegran Wed 13-May-15 16:32:16

It seems to me, soontobe, that your talents are best suited to help people in the form of sympathy, rather than advice. I think everyone on this forum is aware of the basics of Christianity, which you remind them of frequently, and is doing their best to be the kind of person you would like them to be. There are a lot of threads where people are telling of the tragedies which have happened in their lives. Perhaps your heart-felt sympathy and encouragement - without overt proselytising - would be of more help to them than the repeat of advice to love one another is on a thread about politics.

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 13-May-15 16:38:40

Jesus updated that "eye for an eye" thing, with the "turning the other cheek" bit.

Just thought I'd mention it. Can't stand it when the Old Testament gets harped on about.

whitewave Wed 13-May-15 16:40:09

grin jing love your turn of phrase.

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 13-May-15 16:43:12

grin I'm sure soon can quote the text word for word. wink

Soutra Wed 13-May-15 17:15:45

And will.

Ariadne Wed 13-May-15 17:32:32

[grin

Oh, let me - remember "the devil can cite Scripture for his (or her) own purposes":

"Love your enemies; do good to them that hate you.
Resist not evil: if a man smite thee on one cheek, turn to him the other also.
Avenge not yourselves; rather give place unto wrath; and suffer yourselves to be defrauded.
If a man take away thy goods, ask them not again.
Agree with your adversary quickly, submitting even to wrong for the sake of peace.
Labour not to be rich; be ready to every good work, give to those who ask; relieve the afflicted.
Do not your alms before men.."

Last bit makes a lot of sense!

Ana Wed 13-May-15 17:40:19

Although Matthew 5 15/16 says

"Neither do men light a candle, and put itunder a bushel, but on a candlestick; and itgiveth light unto all that are in the house.

16: Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."

confused

Ariadne Wed 13-May-15 17:45:41

ana exactly! The confused bit, I mean. And NO, I am not asking for a detailed exegesis!

Ana Wed 13-May-15 17:48:10

grin

Soutra Wed 13-May-15 17:52:10

Oh come on, surely soontobe can give us the benefit of her superior Biblical knowledge?

rosesarered Wed 13-May-15 18:01:55

What a lot of holy joes we are becoming on here.grinagree with Soutra it's time to pack in this terrified thread....... Or it could run on for years getting longer and stranger!

magpie123 Wed 13-May-15 18:53:26

Ganging up on soontobe now, nothing better to do!

Take no notice soontobe.

durhamjen Wed 13-May-15 19:06:47

Demo against Austerity next month.

www.thepeoplesassembly.org.uk/end_austerity_now_national_demonstration_saturday_20th_june?e=4f295de050c123204df7f4a5c79d8428&utm_source=thepeoplesassembly&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=resonstodemo&n=2

Lots of other people scared of the Tories.

Ana Wed 13-May-15 19:17:40

It sounds rather pathetic to say you're 'scared' of a political party though. Childish even.

rosequartz Wed 13-May-15 19:18:20

Jesus updated that "eye for an eye" thing, with the "turning the other cheek" bit.
I know, I was just being contrary
Perhaps that is an alien concept to some Gransnetters grin

rosequartz Wed 13-May-15 19:19:31

Can't stand it when the Old Testament gets harped on about.

I may not have had a Christian upbringing.

rosequartz Wed 13-May-15 19:21:31

It sounds rather pathetic to say you're 'scared' of a political party though. Childish even.

I would be scared if the result had been different!

durhamjen Wed 13-May-15 19:24:33

Does that make you sound rather pathetic as well, roseq?
Ask Ana.

Lilygran Wed 13-May-15 19:25:52

To go back to the OP. Isn't this scary? i100.independent.co.uk/article/this-is-the-creepiest-thing-david-cameron-has-ever-said--e1q_01xlZZ