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Is wolf-whistling a sex crime?

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annsixty Tue 28-Apr-15 08:46:40

The DT is reporting that police are investigating after a young woman complained after "lecherous" builders whistled at her. At risk of being shot down, when I was young and in my prime I would have complained if they didn't whistle at me.

Elegran Sun 03-May-15 10:05:17

There is an awful lot of misunderstanding about the role of sex and sexual differences in most people's minds in general, not just on here. No wonder they say that men are from Mars and women are from Venus.

I had to look up the post that Soontobe referred to a couple posts up, but I will reiterate it. OF COURSE men like to see pretty girls and OF COURSE women like to see handsome men. (and please don't reply that I am implying that either of them only choose goodlookers for partners. I am talking of the first sighting)

It is how they proceed after they have noticed them, and registered that this is someone they would like to know better, that separates them into sheep and goats. We have all met some goats, and we don't want them after our daughters (or our sons) but most of us also acknowledge that even the most faithful and principled of our partners still has the hormones that respond, can still "enjoy the scenery".

If you think about it, without those hormones they would not be responding to us!

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 03-May-15 10:20:16

If a man shouted, across the road, to a woman, "I like your tits", would that be a sex crime?

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 03-May-15 10:21:32

Apologies for getting back to the original subject.

TerriBull Sun 03-May-15 10:29:54

Vile sexist behaviour, not sure it would constitute a crime. What about women shouting to a man "I like your arse?" Lets not forget a crowd of women after a few drinks, on say a hen night, don't always behave with decorum. Although I think it would be fair to say that men can walk to work without having to experience verbal hassle from the opposite sex.

TriciaF Sun 03-May-15 10:34:23

I don't know about arse - my husband reckons that when many women see an attractive man their eyes go straight to his crotch.
He thinks for both sexes it's a primitive way of assessing who will make a healthy parent for their children.

Elegran Sun 03-May-15 10:35:13

Bad manners? Not a crime as harassment is a crime, but not the action of a civilised man. I have a feeling that if he repeated this day in, day out, it would be considered a crime.

petallus Sun 03-May-15 10:38:17

Where do you draw the line? I remember walking along once when a man came past on a bicycle and said 'do you want to play with my balls?'.

Normal behaviour? Sexist behaviour? A sign he found me attractive?

I bet there aren't many women who cycle past a man saying, do you want to play with my ......?

TerriBull Sun 03-May-15 10:39:38

I think lascivious behaviour is unpleasant in both men and women. Personally I have never wanted to go and see a male stripper, I can't think of anything worse than an evening gathered together with a load of cackling women calling, I find lewdness unpleasant in both men and women. I wouldn't be interested in that sort of an evening, I'd rather stay at home with a good book, perhaps that's just me. That's not to say I don't appreciate looking at a handsome man

petallus Sun 03-May-15 10:45:35

Cackling women?

petallus Sun 03-May-15 10:45:57

Do men cackle when they watch female strippers?

petallus Sun 03-May-15 10:46:40

It's a bit witchy isn't it, cackling?

TerriBull Sun 03-May-15 10:49:54

No men guffaw

TerriBull Sun 03-May-15 10:56:16

Not that I have been around men watching strippers, possibly they go slack jawed or just drool.

trisher Sun 03-May-15 11:50:44

Soontobe- The Bodyline test series was one where in order to win bowlers bowled effectively at the man not the wicket en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodyline

I so agree about objectification and lascivious behaviour being unacceptable no matter which sex is doing it. I don't mind people looking, I don't mind people admiring phyical attributes. I do mind when comments are made which depersonalize and objectify the person they are looking at.
There are obviously a number of people on this thread who don't mind these things, and they are entitled to their views, just as I am entitled to mine.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 03-May-15 12:08:28

My God petallus! I would have pedalled for England! scary! grin

Galen Sun 03-May-15 12:34:04

Capers nimbly in a ladies chamber to the lascivious pleasing of a lute!
Story, off post but just thought of it

Galen Sun 03-May-15 12:34:40

story sorry!

Soutra Sun 03-May-15 12:36:19

tcrconfused !!!

Galen Sun 03-May-15 12:48:11

A little known playwright called Shakespeare.
Richard 1. Opening speech

Soutra Sun 03-May-15 13:12:33

confused
Richard II? Or Richard III ?
crown?

rosequartz Sun 03-May-15 13:16:27

Lascivious lot, those Elizabethans grin
Even with a virgin Queen as a moral standard!

There is a fine line between slightly sleazy behaviour and open admiration and some men don't realise when they have crossed that line and I think some women are not sure where to draw the line anyway.

Soutra Sun 03-May-15 13:20:46

Richard III Act 1 Sc1 lines 12 and 13
And before you say it, I know I need to get a life out more!!
crown tcrsmile

Ana Sun 03-May-15 13:26:54

And weren't they Yorkists then, not Elizabethans? tcrsmile

(I, too, need to get out more...tcrhmm)

rosequartz Sun 03-May-15 13:30:55

I was meaning Shakespeare's time, not Richard III's - sorry, didn't make that clear. He was writing about that time but I think from an Elizabethan perspective!

Virgin crown grin

Ana Sun 03-May-15 13:33:23

Oh yes, I see, sorry! tcrgrin