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AlieOxon Sat 04-Oct-14 15:41:02

I just got an email for my singing group - and they want us to sing 'Delilah'!

A song about a MURDER? I don't know quite what to do, as I really don't like this one.

AlieOxon Sat 13-Dec-14 14:00:45

I'm glad you did - thanks for the pm.
I looked, but couldn't find anywhere to contact with support.
...anyone?

Nelliemoser Sat 13-Dec-14 14:36:32

I can understand that it might be hurtful but such tales are part of music and drama and always will be. Greed and a desire for power, betrayal by a lover, jealousy. Othello, Carmen and many more tales are about these subjects.

Theses songs and dramas have been around for centuries.
It seems inappropriate to me to ban them, perhaps we just have to live with them and see them as cautionary tales.

The Greenwood side a classic English folk ballad.

"She leaned her back against the thorn
Oh, the rose and the linsey, oh
And there, two bonny boys, she's born
Down by the Greenwood side, oh

She's taken out her little knife
Oh, the rose and the linsey, oh
And she's robbed them of their life
Down by the Greenwood side, oh
(some versions are
"and stabbed those two boys to the heart")

"Coventry Carol"

Lully, lulla, thou little tiny child
By by, lully, lullay, thou little tiny child
By by, lully lullay

Herod, the king
In his raging
Charged he hath this day
His men of might
In his own sight,
All young children to slay

"Bohemian Rhapsody" by Queen

Mama, just killed a man
Put a gun against his head
Pulled my trigger, now he's dead
Mama, life had just begun
But now I've gone and thrown it all away
Mama, ooo
Didn't mean to make you cry
If I'm not back again this time tomorrow
Carry on, carry on, as if nothing really matters

crun Sat 13-Dec-14 14:37:43

This was the subject of a piece on Radio 4 Today this morning. I missed the beginning, but I think someone's written a book about songs about law breaking. Delilah was mentioned along with several others. In The Summertime, Mungo Jerry: "Take a drink, take a drive, go out and see what you can find..."

I think once you start down that road, there'll be no stopping. It's a bit like banning humour that pokes fun at someone, almost all humour pokes fun at someone.

merlotgran Sat 13-Dec-14 14:44:15

This was also discussed on the Jeremy Vine Show Radio2 yesterday lunchtime. Some interesting arguments for and against.

AlieOxon Sat 13-Dec-14 15:07:14

In fact, there some pretty horrible songs around.

I didn't know that 'Delilah' was a Welsh rugby anthem.....the thought of hundreds of men singing it makes me feel a bit sick.

Iam64 Sat 13-Dec-14 15:12:33

I agree with you AllieOxen. A woman supporter phoned the JV show in support of the singing of Delilah, a Welsh former rugby player just didn't get the arguments against the singing. This, despite the fact a woman whose sister had been killed by her husband phoning in to express concern about the lyrics of Delilah. I don't agree with the slipper slope argument. I had a much loved gollywog as a child, wouldn't buy one today though.