Feeling Feminine?[hmmm]

Tbh, * bags* makes me feel like an overgrown cart horse as well

To me a femine woman is :-
a] Sexy, and not necessarily in an overt way

b]is attractive to the opposite sex

c] sends out an aura , whether she knows it or not .

Why, Nonu?

My post will no doubt get the FEMINISTS among us, a bit cross.

That is what I feel, take it or leave it.!

I'll leave it. Each to their own.

Sad, not cross.

Sounds like a sheep in oestrus Nonu grin

A few posts back you were saying that women wearing combat/fatigues looked quite butch. Does that mean that you think that in fatigues they are not

a] Sexy, and not necessarily in an overt way

b]is attractive to the opposite sex

c] sends out an aura , whether she knows it or not.

I mean, does it take pretty clothes and perfume to make a woman sexy and attractive to men?

I think that women dressed in casual mens-type clothes (casual shirts and jackets) seem to turn the men on - that's my experience anyway!

I NEVER wear anything that might remotely be called feminine and have not experienced any lack of interest from the opposite sex, so I assume that they must have regarded me as looking feminine.

Most women are sexy some of the time, even if not in an overt way.
Most women are attractive to some part of the male gender at least some of the time.

So that's probably all women some of the time and some women all of the time.

Can't speak for auras; never met one.

Do you think masculinity is about sexiness too, nonu? And if not why not?

As I said in my post of 20.17, that is what ^ I FEEL^ , take it or leave it.

Although I will add the rider, that I DO FEEL MASCULINITY< IS ABOUT SEXINESS

Money and sex make the world go round IMO.

Don"t suppose many agree with that statement!

<Wipes brow>

I think you're courageous to state your views so openly, Nonu, knowing full well the likely responses you'd receive.

What does 'attractive to the opposite sex' mean exactly?

All of us know women who to all intents and purposes lack both sexiness and aura and yet are happily partnered and were spoilt for choice.

For some men a women merely possessing the appendages of being female makes her 'attractive to men'.

Yes, money and sex make the world go round but the word masculinity is often used as a euphemism for a man who expects to get his own way all the time and has the strength to enforce it.

Is anyone arguing with that? As I see it, the question some people are asking is "If you define "feminine" as sexy and attractive to men, is the frilly helpless woman the only kind that is sexy and attractive to men, or are capable, no-nonsense women equally sexy and attractive? And if they are, then surely they too can be defined as feminine?"

If sexy and attractive = feminine,
and
capable practical woman = sexy and attractive
then
capable practical woman is as feminine as frilly helpless woman

By "arguing with that" I mean with nonu's opinion that money and sex make the world go round.

We are taking it and leaving it, nonu, just as you are taking or leaving others' views. It's called having a conversation.

What I've said on this thread is what I feel too. I haven't told anyone to take it or leave it because I know that that's exactly what they will do—i.e. there isn't a problem.

DD1 some years ago said that she thought everything was about sex, ultimately. I'm not sure I agree but I think I know what she meant—the perpetuation of life, which is what life is all about, ultimately and if you ignore subtleties.

I think she is right. I do think that what each generation finds sexy or feminine varies hugely. However you choose to dress now, there are groups of people with whom you will fit right in, you just may have to move to feel that way. There are areas of the UK where the women dress up as if they are going clubbing at any time of day, there are areas where everyone seems to be wearing sports clothes, others where everyone is very casual, there are the farming clothes areas and there are still very hippyish areas. DS seems to like girls in military clothing, judging by the photos I have seen of him at OTC events... You can be what you want to be, wear what you want to wear nowadays, there is a huge choice, but some women will always appear to be more 'feminine' than others without perhaps even realising, even when covered in mud with their hair scraped back and no makeup.

I think if you put all of humanity on a graph, with sexual orientation along one side and masculinity gradually sliding into femininity along the other, you would be surprised at the results.

AND

On 16/8. 22.05 I mentioned that Zandra Rhodes might have meant sexy rather than feminine and strangely no one responded. Though I may be wrong as this is a long thread.
In the words of some GN ears 'Just saying'

I think it's a question of self confidence and attitude.