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whitewave Thu 20-Feb-14 12:42:09

Just read an article in the Guardian this morning about the English saying sorry to the Scots for everything we have ever done - thought it amusing. But do wonder what the GN'ers think. I am British/English but feel totally ambivalent about whether Scotland leaves the union, although pushed I would say "stay with us"

merlotgran Sat 22-Feb-14 19:15:23

I read today that the lucky buggers Scots won't be able to enter the Eurovision Song Contest if they get the Yes vote.

LizG Sat 22-Feb-14 19:57:01

They should be so lucky Merlot grin

Elegran Sat 22-Feb-14 20:03:16

Every cloud has a silver lining.

felice Sat 22-Feb-14 22:45:23

Wonder how Israel managed to enter ??????

whitewave Sat 22-Feb-14 22:48:35

Didn't they enter a chap in drag one year or was it someone else? Perhaps the organizers thought the contest needed something to provide more interest.

Aka Sat 22-Feb-14 23:03:51

I think s/he had had a sex change whtewave

whitewave Sat 22-Feb-14 23:05:56

Oh! Still that did provide some sort of interest I suppose

Aka Sat 22-Feb-14 23:07:51

Wonder how many medals in the Winter Olympics and the 2012 London Games Team GB would have won without the Scottish sportspeople? hmm

Aka Sat 22-Feb-14 23:09:12

Sorry I seemed to have strayed off the topic of transsexual Israeli Eurovision entrants.

Apologies.

Kofi21 Sun 23-Feb-14 08:29:12

EU membership is open to any recognized European democracy that meets the Copenhagen criteria and adopts the acquis communautaire. Scotland has been within the EU/ EC for over forty years and does meet these criteria.

Ariadne Sun 23-Feb-14 09:06:02

Stray all you like - just like a conversation in real time does!

Thistledoo Sun 23-Feb-14 09:09:04

I live in deepest Scotland and have done for the past 45 years, very proud to say I come from Scotland. BUT I am British, my mother was English father Welsh and most of my many relatives live south if the border. I cannot bear the nationalism that is being created in Scotland in the name of independence, its causing bad feeling and creating two camps, the yes vote, very vocal, the no vote very quiet.
I will be voting NO.

felice Sun 23-Feb-14 09:27:10

I do not like to be asked what I would vote, all elections should be private and it worries me that there may be a backlash however the vote goes towards people who openly stated their preference.
I am from Edinburgh and have been asked a few times since moving here if I support Hearts or Hibs football teams, other Scots will understand the nature of the question, I just say I am a Rugby fan.

Penstemmon Sun 23-Feb-14 10:07:20

I am not from Scotland and have only visited Edinburgh to visit friends (they are yes voters I believe) I only want Scotland to become independent if the have to take Michael Gove back wink

whitewave Sun 23-Feb-14 10:53:23

Kofi21 undoubtedly - but Scotland's problem is Spain and perhaps France, it only takes one to veto and that's it. Spain is very likely to veto Scotland's request because it is not in her interest to do otherwise.

Granny23 Sun 23-Feb-14 14:12:54

Whitewave Spain will not exercise their veto as they would lose their access to their principal fishing grounds, which are in Scottish waters. Spanish Government has made this promise to Spanish Fishing Industry.

GillT57 Sun 23-Feb-14 14:44:09

Spain will not vote to allow Scotland as a 'break away' country to be admitted as a new member of the EEC because it will cause a precedent that will cause them problems, namely the basque regions (Catalonia?) who have long campaigned, sometimes very violently, for separate entity.

Maggiemaybe Sun 23-Feb-14 15:47:46

Wonder how many medals in the Winter Olympics and the 2012 London Games Team GB would have won without the Scottish sportspeople?

According to Wikipedia.....

Scots won 12 at the 2012 Games, Aka, the same as people from Yorkshire. Team GB won 65 altogether.

At Sochi, the 2 individual medals were won by Englishwomen, the 2 team medals for curling by Scots, I assume.

Amazing what avoidance tactics I can find to put off doing what I should be doing this afternoon, ie working! smile

JessM Mon 24-Feb-14 15:37:15

I reckon Spain would veto - the Basques have wanted independence for decades - they have their own language and they are a wealthy region with lots of industry and fantastic road and rail links to France. Then Catalans also have their own language and are, I believe the second most wealthy region and many too would like independence. Then there is Galicia (another language...) If you drive around the rest of Spain you see graffiti - every blooming region has got its own agenda about wanting to split from Spain, split in half etc. Combine that with a desperate economy with huge unemployment in many regions. The Spanish might like their calamari but they are not going to risk their most affluent regions leaving the poorer regions in the lurch.