Movedalot, yes they are a problem am not saying they are not. Its just a matter of scale and being a trusting soul I leave it to Gransnet to draw the line. Just being a bit of a stirrer or a tad argumentative is unpleasant but its not a crime. And yes Bags, I know I go on about it too - but there is a lot to be said for tolerance on both sides. Just as I take some things said in here with a pinch of salt AND often give folks the benefit of the doubt (language skills can make a huge difference - we aint all Jane Austen). I hope others will do the same for me. Hells Teef.....I is borderline dyslexic, post menopausal, etc etc. 