What would you think if you received this?

I'm sorry but I see nothing wrong with those rules - overeager relatives, particularly grans, appear to be keen to see baby very early on and sometimes without checking if ok in advance. NOBODY should be a kissing or otherwise slobbering over a newborn baby during a pandemic - or ever in my opinion - and yes some people DO need to be told to wash their hands. The hearts are obviously to try and soften the tone in a message to close family members - bit twee but I see their intent. Honestly cannot see what some of you are finding fault with here?

Bibbity

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Well a lot of us have explained what we've found fault with Saetana the ridiculous hearts for one thing.

Emojis. Very common in todays communication. Commonly used to help express emotions or the intent of the message. The fact some may be slightly out of touch of this is not the fault of the sender.

So an adult couple is able to hold jobs, a roof over their heads, fed and entertain themselves, without their parents' help (generally speaking)

But when a baby is in the picture, that same couple, who was competent to carry out daily life before, now are unable to manage it?

Manage it without their parents' help?

Smileless2012

Well a lot of us have explained what we've found fault with Saetana the ridiculous hearts for one thing.

That’s just how people communicate these days though. All messages I receive from the younger members of my family are littered with emojis.

Emojis are super important to younger generations, who prefer to text vs call. I had no idea until recently how important emojis are in a text conversation to them. My youngest was upset at school because I sent a text that I thought was normal and did not include emojis to indicate emotion.

They also hate ellipses, which sucks for me because I am old enough to love using them.

Think I'd be replying respect all her wishes and will when Covid, flu, any other infectious disease has been eliminated and hopefully baby, mother and family have reached a stage when they don't ever feel tired will try to fit in a visit between meals, coffee mornings etc. Just hope the precious couple never need anyone to help with /look after their child. I know I wouldn't feel able to accommodate. Are these people living in a diseased ravaged environment.

I am a sporadic emoji user, they snuck up on me, like the lols

There is a big difference between having too many visitors, all and sundry, neighbours, etc,

and your own mum, surely.

Thank you Violetsky!

I'm due round about the same time as the neice and from my experience she's going off medical advice from midwives at this time.
One of the things they do now is a new text alert, worded like a friend that you sign up for, for breast feeding help and advice which they introduced during the pandemic.
PND seems to be rife and what with the NHS the way it is they are trying to bring those numbers down.
Hence the new things they have put in place and suggesting the 2 week recovering period for the new parents and establish breastfeeding.

If family members are behaving like this, it explains for those numbers.

Kali2

There is a big difference between having too many visitors, all and sundry, neighbours, etc,

and your own mum, surely.

Depends on the mum. Just because she's her mother doesn't mean the Daughter feels a strong relationship with her or that she will find her presence enjoyable.

Yes it does March

This 2 week recovery period is so needed. Mum knows who she wants most for support and that is often her partner not mum. Even if not partner, it's not always going to be mum.

Exactly bibitty

Bibbity sorry

Well I came home after a Ceasarean on 3rd day and I had no-one. I wish I had a mother who would have been there for me. OH was working VERY long hours too.

My mil said she was going on hols to Greece with her new lover- and my parents came from abroad after a couple of weeks.

Refusing mum's visit does not bode well for the future relationship and any request for help, really.

Kali2

Refusing mum's visit does not bode well for the future relationship and any request for help, really.

The mother refusing to respect her daughter and not be selfish doesn't bode well for her being able to build a relationship with the grandchild she wants to see so bad.

Kali2

Refusing mum's visit does not bode well for the future relationship and any request for help, really.

Would you say “Refusing your husband does not bode well for the future relationship?”

Anyway, you will always see the real character of a person in the way they react when told “no”.

Kali2

Refusing mum's visit does not bode well for the future relationship and any request for help, really.

I don’t understand this though.

How is asking for what you need (albeit clumsily) grounds for ruining the relationship and all future help? (Assuming she even wants it)

Despicable behaviour to say "but I'm your mum".
Outrageous.

I Think it’s a bit sad that the new parents have no desire to share their happiness with their close family. Apparently.

There’s a world of difference between that and the overbearing grandparents scenario. It’s not the idea of time on their own that’s bugs me, it’s the “RULES”.

as always MissA!

Well said Bibbity - the hearts only seem to offend those who do not appear to acknowledge that some of us use emojis to soften a written message which can be, after all, taken the wrong way without them.