Covid italian mother-in-law

Naty Thanks, but we cannot escape the information on the Coronavirus here. It's on every tv news programme, the radio, in every newspaper, as well as recorded messages at the GP surgeries and hospitals. Sick of hearing about it.

I don't know what you are being told giulia but news from Italy doesn't look good from here; they do not appear to be coping.

Mind you, it's early days here as yet.

At least the Chinese threw everything into curbing it. I'd feel much safer there, than the UK.

That 'herd immunity' argument is BS. No one had herd immunity from smallpox or TB, did they? We had vaccines.

You wouldn't mind being dragged out of your home then Gagajo?
We've had news from someone in Wuhan and it was not good. Perhaps ex-pat foreigners are treated better though.

www.altnewsmedia.net/news/corona-virus-exclusive-why-italy/

This is a why.

Are you going to stay in Switzerland rather than risk coming back to the UK?

Yes, I heard that a little while ago, Missfoodlove

I do not believe the herd immunity BS either.

I felt cold shock at the PM's callousness....."some of you will lose loved ones"

giulia I'm sorry your family won't listen.

I wish you all the very best
(miserable posters included).

My best friend is from Wuhan. All of her family are there. A couple were ill, tested, found negative. They're VERY happy with the way it has been dealt with. She was worried to start with because her elderly mother had just come out of hospital with heart problems when it hit. But both elderly parents have been fine. The family took the view that drastic intervention was needed. I agree with them.

I'm coming home Callistemon. I know it's a risk but I can't bear to stay here.

The herd immunity idea is not the Prime Minister’s. He is taking advice from epidemiologists. Other epidemiologists and scientists disagree about the strategy being taken. That doesn’t mean it’s wrong. It means nobody knows enough to be sure what the best approach is.

I heard yesterday by word-of-mouth that Germany is taking the same approach as the UK. Do we have German posters who could confirm or deny this?

I’m having daily what’s app chats with an Italian friend and she is frankly very very scared She talks of streets being disinfected,police cars circulating telling people to stay indoors, upwards of 4o cases of pneumonia per day. They find the uk policy hard to understand but I guess there must be a rationale, I know I am in no way qualified to comment.

I don’t think what Boris said about losing loved ones was callous. I think it was factual. People will die, that’s why all these measures are being put into place and maybe his words will be a wake up call.

The WHO isn't happy with the UK (half) measures. Surely they have enough 'experts' yet our own government thinks it knows better.

naty, you tried. Thank you.
Stay well.

Italy currently has 292 cases per million people, we have 12. Yes, the figure is probably much higher, in both countries, with many cases not officially confirmed, but one undeniable fact is that over 1200 people have died of CV in Italy, and here it’s 11.

Comparing the situation in the two countries is meaningless, and scaremongering is dangerous.

The WHO advice is to follow guidance from your local and national authorities, who are best placed to give advice for your area. I agree.

www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Naty Thank you!

Maggiemaybe. I hope you didn’t think I was scaremongering. I did say I was not qualified to judge etc

One irony is that while The World Health Organisation is giving the world strong directives on how to behave in the crisis, the people of Geneva (where WHO is based) are living their lives as if nothing has happened, totally ignoring all the recommendations.

Maggiemaybe. I hope you didn’t think I was scaremongering.

Not at all, Lucca, I was speaking generally. There’s so much misinformation doing the rounds at the moment. A doctor I know has said he’s very concerned that sick people are missing routine, but necessary, medical appointments, for fear of going to a surgery. To some of them, this is more dangerous than catching the virus.

Maggiemaybe, I'm not sure where you get your figures, but the UK has 798 recorded cases.

I have a friend self isolating. She's not been tested but has ALL the symptoms. There will be many like her.

Yes, and that equates to less than 12 per million of the population. As I said.

The figures are here.

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

If you prefer raw figures instead of per head of the population the U.K. now has 798 confirmed cases, Italy has 17,660.