Covid italian mother-in-law

Maggiemaybe, yes as younsaid.

792 cases in a population of 5,000 would be catastrophic, you stated per million.

It will rise, inevitably.

However, on average 17,000 people (loved ones) die of flu annually in the UK although the 2018/19 figure was very low.

Just England, sorry, not including the RUK.

I would think most people ARE doing whatever they can to stay safe but without panicking? I don't know of anyone who isn't taking it seriously though? If you are in a position to sit at home and shut your door on the world then great ..but lots of people are not. What would happen if all members of the police force, fire service, doctors, nurses, paramedics, care givers shop keepers all locked themselves away right now? Many people could then die from much more than the virus.

I am fed up with people saying exactly what the Government should or should not be doing. Nobody knows how long this is likely to go on for starters. Yes it will probably get worse before it gets better but the most anyone can do is try to carry on as normal but be extra careful and follow the guidelines set out.

I can’t do the link but I read an article in the independent online about dr Christian Jessen (a tv doctor). Who said the Italians were using this as an excuse not to work and its just a bad cold. I felt sick reading it. How can anyone come out with things like that ?

I know many people who are not taking this seriously. Who are sitting around saying it’s just the flu. More people die of the regular flu than this. So to say that no one is not taking this seriously is not at all the case.

Look at all the People who still went to Italy a few weeks ago. Look at people who are still planning to take all of their vacations. People are not all taking this seriously.

Lucca WHAT! I just cannot believe that a doctor could say anything so stupid and ignorant.

Some people are not taking it seriously- but that happens over everything. Others are just frozen like rabbits in the headlights of a car and are so scared they are unable to act. But from everything I have seen and read, most people are taking it seriously.

I have actually been part of an online discussion this afternoon by a group I am a member of and we have decided to cancel all our activities for the foreseeable future.

It seems inevitable that there will be many unnecessary deaths due to their health services being overwhelmed. In a report from the Lancet:

'Intensive care specialists are already considering denying life-saving care to the sickest and giving priority to those patients most likely to survive when deciding who to provide ventilation to. This attitude has already been criticised by the current President of the Italian Comitato di Bioetica who, in a recent declaration to lay press stated that the Constitution recognises the right of every individual to receive all necessary health care. They might not recognise that the reality is that intensive care wards are overflowing with patients and that COVID-19 is not a benign disease. Our doctors and nurses are modern heroes in an unexpected war against a difficult enemy. In the near future, they will have no choice. They will have to follow the same rules that health-care workers are left with in conflict and disaster zones.'

www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30627-9/fulltext

Giulia, Google it it makes horrible reading.

However I love the videos of quarantined Italians all over the country singing from their balconies

*More people die of the regular flu than this

Summerlove

How can you say that? It is not over therefore we do NOT know how many will die.

Pinkquartz, I was quoting other people who feel that all the panic is “fear mongering” and “media hype”.

I’m sorry if that wasn’t clear.

I take this very seriously. I know many people who do not

Oh good to hear I did read it wrong?

Why aren't our borders shut...they Govt are not giving clear messages
If the Govt sounded serious and put measures like closed borders into action maybe more people will listen and take it seriously.
I took it seriously very quickly......and am very appalled by lack of Govt action

I took it seriously very quickly and was pooh poohed by others and some of my own family. They realise now.

I also knew an apocalypse was coming. We only had to watch China to see that.

There was too much ignorance here for far too long. A lot of it by our government who bear most of the responsibility for the deaths. They should have begun preparing in January.

Now we have doctors and nurses in standard medical clothing when they should be in hazmat suits. We are short on ventilators.

Blood on their hands.

Gaga

Whoever wished this on the world has ^blood on their hands

Or a hidden agenda.

Oh was that China?

You really think is all a Chinese plot?!

At this moment I do not think it is a plot by China, but why the incredulity summerlove?

Why?

Because I don’t live In a world where I fear that every other country/political party is out to get me. I will happily eat my words if proven wrong though.

There was too much ignorance here for far too long. A lot of it by our government who bear most of the responsibility for the deaths. They should have begun preparing in January^.
Now we have doctors and nurses in standard medical clothing when they should be in hazmat suits. We are short on ventilators
Blood on their hands
I do not think inflammatory language like this is particularly helpful.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Exactly when did you set off to work abroad, Gagajo?
And when did you decide to leave your part of Switzerland, which I think you said was a hop, skip and a jump from the border with N Italy? So that you could cuddle your DGS including in his sleep?
Let’s not be too self- righteous or too inclined to some sort of conspiracy theory.

Go watch this. They'll wish they'd listened now.https://youtu.be/vukHzn2juxw

You really think is all a Chinese plot?!
No

MawB so well said.
Please, please, GagaJo, can you not read your own contradictory posts?

Oh for gods sake MawB. It was obvious it was coming. Anyone that thought we were immune was incredibly ignorant.

Yes, I was at work. I need a salary. I have a mortgage and bills.