Green Coffee Beans for weight loss

Bad Science was recommended to me by DD who is a pretty successful scientist herself (Wears a white coat and everything!) Definitely worth a read.

The only sensible use for green coffee beans is roasting them and making coffee!

Dr Oz is known for boosting quackery on TV... He is a neuro-surgeon, so this is well outside his field .

And there's one born every minute.
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Even better than pedalling away on a static exercise bag is getting out into the daylight and walking. I walk every day, even grey and overcast days, as long as it is not actually raining hard or snowing hard.
I don't take any supplements, just have a varied diet , eating all the four main food groups. I have never dieted, but I do eat small portions and if I want something between meals I eat a few almonds and raisins, or a piece of fruit. Since I started serious walking, I have lost two stone and about 5" off my waist and hips, dropping from size 18 trousers to 14.
Even if you live in an inner city, there is usually a park where you can walk and enjoy the different seasons.

As in you tell people they are in a trial of some wonderful weight loss pill and they lose weight. Whatever you give them. Power of suggestion.

Another word on Green Coffee, from Steven Novella, MD:

"Dr. Oz recently jumped on the coffee pseudoscience bandwagon by recommending green coffee beans for weight loss. Oz describes this as a “miracle pill” and offers some anecdotal evidence as justification. There is some published evidence on green (unroasted) coffee beans and weight loss, but of such terrible quality that it is completely unreliable. The study is small, poorly blinded, and was not registered with clinicaltrials.gov. In any case, the results, although touted as positive, are not convincing because they do not show a dose response relationship. During the study people lost weight, but it did not appear to have any relationship to when and what dose they were taking of green coffee beans." (from James Randi Educational Foundation website)

Jadeyif you would like support why not look at and join the weekly weigh-in thread that Glassortwo runs every week. Look in the Diet forum and click on the weigh-in for Monday 4th March and you will see the comments from fellow losers! We all praise each other when successes are reported and console and support each other when we have bad weeks.
Have a look, then have a think, and then come and join us - you will be made very welcome!

"Bad Science" is a brilliant book. Ben Goldacre also has a website.
?bad science.net.

no but i do like a rational discussion. will look it up.

Agree about Vit D JessM there's also a rational discussion in the scientific community on taking small amounts of additional B12 as we age, due to poor absorption, alteration of stomach acids, etc. Have you come across this in your research?

There are no miracle supplements - not vitamins, not drinks, not herbs nada. When after researching my book on the immune system my conclusion was, if you don't get lots sunshine then take vitamin D. Eat a healthy diet. Stop smoking if you do. All these pills and potions are snake oil.
I agree Ben a hero.

I have just posted a link to an article on Quackwatch on a similar topic. See thread on "Health" called "Pernicious books" (The Quackwatch report is not the pernicious bit!)

And I have just downloaded a further chapter to the book, which Ben Goldacre could not include because he was being sued about it. It is here

Yes - agree 100% - Ben Goldacre's book is a must-have... I like the chapter heading 'Why clever people believe stupid things'.

Thank you Ellegran

There probably is a law, but the promoters of these things stay just this side of it by not actually lying but using misleading "trials" which involve a small number of participants, or participants who are likely to give the results they want. Then they write up the results to show that their product is wonderful.

I can't praise this book enough - "Bad Science" by Ben Goldacre - a readable account of how to estimate how likely it is that a claim that something is a new miracle cure will be true.

Elegran thank you for the article I tried to read it but it seemed to go on forever, my brain started to hurt and it was confusing.

There should be a law against LIEING aout products. I am sure there must be one!! [hmm}

thanks jing I might think about it!

The saddle is suprisingly comfortable Galen. Obviously it's not going to be overpadded as it has to help you do the job, but it has got enough give, and it is nicely wide.

I don't think the ankle joint does come into the action. You just push straight down from the knee. It's not like the pedal action of riding a real bike.

Jing, is the saddle comfortable and do you have to use your ankle a lot.
This is a serious question as I would like one but using my ankle a lot flares it up!

OZ is a supplement peddler. It is a huge and lucrative industry selling people pills and potions. Suggest you ignore.

me too!

Mine is very similar. V-fit AC2 Beny UK Sports Ltd As I rule, I like to burn off 125 calories per day. Not a lot...but every little helps! And now, I really am getting off this computer!

Here is the view of Scott Gavura in "Science-based medicine"
science-based medicine

Dr Oz has a new weight loss miracle for 2013 - red palm oil

this is my bike It's small, and I have it in the spare bedroom (with my desktop 'puter so I can watch tv while I'm on it)