Knitting question - can anyone help with this pattern, please?

Sorry I can't help, it doesn't make any sense to me at all.

Thanks for looking.

I think it must be a typo, but I don't know how to fudge it right at the start of the pattern.

What size are you knitting?

Hi Doodledog - which size are you knitting?

Size 7. As the last 4 sizes have the same number of stitches, I was going to see how big it looked and possibly size up or down later.

It doesn't matter though - they all seem wrong, apart from the first 2 sizes.

Excluding markers 12+2+19+2+33+2+19+2+12 =103.
Where is the problem.

I may be completely wrong but over the years I have attempted knitting patterns in varying languages from different countries. I think that the instruction pm means insert a marker. (I have used a loop of a different colour for this in the past). Would it make sense to insert a marker where it says pm. The marker is never knitted in, just moved up in situ.

Just calculated the size 7 and the count seems right = 119

I think boz is saying the same thing as me.

Doodledog you are counting pm as a stitch? Excluding pms and it works perfectly.

The cast on row seems to have some incorrect numbers.
If you read that sizes 1,2 and 3 have 103 stitches, 4,5 And 6 have 111 stitches, and 7, 8 and 9 have 119 stitches - that makes more sense, in that there are 3 different sizes ( small, medium, large?), and each size increases by 8 stitches.
Does the next row of the pattern match the 3 numbers of stitches in the marker placing row? ( ie if you are doing size 7, that makes it 119 stitches )
Sorry, this is really confusing. There does seem to be a typo in the first cast on row.

Boz

Just calculated the size 7 and the count seems right = 119

Yes, I know. The numbers between the markers add up to 119, but I have cast on 135 as per the instructions, so I can't end up with 119, unless I have misunderstood altogether, which I don't think I have .

Yes, the marker is just that, a little piece of wool between the stitches in a different colour to show the different sections. I use a length of wool of about four inches . I see no other problem for this pattern. Good luck.

I think the 135 is wrong, and it should be 119 for the 3 largest sizes.

It doesn't make sense to me either. It says cast on 135 sts and knit a row placing markers. No instructions to decrease to 119 sts. Bonkers!

LindaPat

The cast on row seems to have some incorrect numbers.
If you read that sizes 1,2 and 3 have 103 stitches, 4,5 And 6 have 111 stitches, and 7, 8 and 9 have 119 stitches - that makes more sense, in that there are 3 different sizes ( small, medium, large?), and each size increases by 8 stitches.
Does the next row of the pattern match the 3 numbers of stitches in the marker placing row? ( ie if you are doing size 7, that makes it 119 stitches )
Sorry, this is really confusing. There does seem to be a typo in the first cast on row.

Phew! I thought I was going mad .

The next 21 or so rows are not stitch counted - they just ask you to knot to marker etc, and the next time stitches are mentioned is at the end of the short rows, when they are as per the screenshot.

Boz

Yes, the marker is just that, a little piece of wool between the stitches in a different colour to show the different sections. I use a length of wool of about four inches . I see no other problem for this pattern. Good luck.

The problem is that you cast on 135, and should end up with 119 without decreasing any

LindaPat

I think the 135 is wrong, and it should be 119 for the 3 largest sizes.

I thought that, but size 4 would be out then. For that size you cast on 123 and end up with 111.

Boz

Excluding markers 12+2+19+2+33+2+19+2+12 =103.
Where is the problem.

Size 7 - cast on 135 stitches
Row 1 equals 119 stitches

So what about the other 16 stitches?

Plus markers (supposing you purl these) is still only 127 stitches

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How do you knit German short rows? Is that a factor?

Apologies if you have the answer, I started to type and then answered a phone call

Yes, that does seem confusing. Sometimes the company that printed the pattern will have adjustments on their website. Can you log on and have a look?

It is a Ravelry pattern, and I have messaged the designer to see if she can help.

Cal, you can't knit markers - they are solid 'things' (mine are either rubber or metal), which sit on the needle between the stitches.

The short rows are not a factor, as this is row 1, but they don't make a difference - they are there to share the neck, and basically mean that you don't knit to the end of a row, but turn and come back so that the centre is higher than the edges.

Thanks everyone for trying. I think it must be a misprint, but thought I may just be too tired to concentrate. I am going out tonight, but might try reducing the cast-on to 119 and see what happens.

If you don't have any stitch markers, paperclips are handy and cheap. They can be hung on the wool between stitches and removed when no longer needed by sliding them off. You can even get mixed coloured ones.