Pre- teen girls seek Vagina surgery

And according to the article I read, many doctors are explaining that that they are not abnormal as we all look different in that area (as well as facially for example.). The 'doctors' who are willing to operate (presumably for money?) should be ashamed.

Nanabilly
I think you might be referring to a 'vajazzle'. I can assure you that no one on Towie is capable of carrying out a surgical procedure.

I read about this in the paper I think (or was it online?) -however it implied that the girls had been seeing pornogaphic photos on their phones, and felt they were 'abnormal' as they didnt look like these images. I assume they used mirrors to check themselves!?
I think it's horrifying. And mothers should not be encouraging this.

"Who shouldn't have it?

A labiaplasty should not be performed on girls younger than 18. Their labia may continue to grow and develop well beyond puberty, into early adulthood."

www.nhs.uk/Conditions/cosmetic-treatments-guide/Pages/labiaplasty.aspx

"How much does it cost?

In the UK, a labiaplasty costs about £1,000-£3,000, plus the cost of any consultations or follow-up care that may not be included in the price.

Occasionally, a labiaplasty may be carried out on the NHS if the vaginal lips are obviously abnormal and causing the woman distress or harming her health. However, the NHS doesn't routinely provide this operation."

So sad. People should thank their lucky stars they don't need an operation! They should think of other people instead of being obsessed with themselves! Bit of diversion therapy!

What I've read it's young girls from 16/17 upwards who of course can give consent

Agree entirely Radicalnan , so very sad that this is what it has come to, when you think about the suffragettes & the down trodden of yesteryear, let alone ,as has been mentioned those with serious health issues ?

Yes nannarose, a safeguarding issue in my opinion too.

Please don't believe everything you read or hear on TV. It's often anything for a story.

I didn't see this show.
But I am aware that sometimes, because of the publicity & idiocy surrounding cosmetic surgery, there can be poor information.

Some other gransnetters who have been nurses or doctors, will, as I have, dealt with children who needed 'cosmetic' surgery for serious abnormalities (sometimes congenital, sometimes the result of an accident). Nothing to do with either modern obsessions or 'genital mutilation'.

I have nursed two such children. I also had a good friend who had to have breast surgery in her late teens (50 years ago) for a serious abnormality. She was deeply upset when many years later, another 'friend' referred to it as a 'boob job'which seemed to dismiss the difficult experience.

Whatever the reason, completely inappropriate to be discussing on TV, and to my mind, a safeguarding issue.

Exactly Derek. That's why, if what Lucky says is true, the 'procedure' carried out by her doctor friend should be reported.

What horrible vain people we are turning into..........I can't believe what people are prepared to do to themselves in aid of vanity...and to consider, on behalf of others.

At 9 my daughters were avidy discussing the tricky matter of slides over scrunchies ..........what are these girls watching on telly?

I saw a truly disgusting thing the other night people with shaven pubic areas, flaunting them for a date match I think, caught a glimpse and turned it off.........when did life become so base.

People happy to campaign against FGM, and then parading themselves on the box for approval of their intimate parts ..not so intimate after the programme of course. boobs jobs are almost a rite of passge like getting a handbag used to be.

I think this stuff is wildly exaggerated and I suspect it would probably be illegal for a surgeon in the UK to perform such an operation on a child for cosmetic purposes. So my advice is don't get your labs in a flap grannies!

Not sure I even knew what labia were at 9 - sheltered childhood maybe or just the marvellous opportunity to be a child whilst I was young!

Lucky. If what you were told is accurate then it should be reported.

Labiaplasty would normally be carried out using a laser or scalple and would take one to two hours in surgery. No way should a doctor be handed a pair of scissors and be told to 'chop them off'. Where was this carried out? In a doctors' surgery? If so it sounds like FGM. FGM is illegal in this country punishable by 5-14 years imprisonment. It is important that you report this incident to the police.

Lucky on the NHS? I'm astounded, really really shocked. There is potential misconduct here by various people

Rigby....yes - no - unhappy.

This really appalls me. Will they be wanting full FGM? Now that will make the vulva look very neat and tidy.
I am truly horrified and angry about this and the issue has been around for quite some time now.

Not to mention that prepubescent girls vulvas will most likely look very different once they have reached puberty.

This is essentially FGM. It may not be as extreme as full FGM in the main parts of the world where this is practiced but that is what it is.
Surgeons should be banned from performing any such surgery unless there is a real clinical need.

Was this in this country Lucky? Was it a private procedure? How did the doctor feel about it?

I know a young doctor who was asked to do this recently - patient anaesthetised and the young doc was handed a pair of scissors to do a bit of a "trim" on the labia. She was a bit tentative and was exhorted to just chop them off. It is grim.

It is so sad that any woman (let alone a young girl) should so detest how nature made them that they would subject themselves to such painful surgery for no reason at all.

please please will people stop using the word "vagina" when it should be *vulva

And as for girls of that age thinking they need surgery, heaven help us! As others have said, girls of that age don't take themselves off to the GP............

From my (fairly limited) experience of men it seems to me that the last thing they are interested in is what it looks like!

Can't believe mothers are letting them watch things like that at 9yrs old wish they would let them be children .