The King's Impending Trip To USA

He should be advised to NOT go but I expect he will

Macaydia

I dont think our King needs advice. He has a lifetime of public relations experience.

Indeed, and if anyone can smooth things over, Charles can.

OP, what do you think the Prime Minister should advise the king to do?

Well I wasn’t thinking if his safety I don’t think he should be shaking hands and smiling and being smiley smiley to that war mongering idiot.

Although wars and politics are different things, there's no denying they are linked in this instance. So Charles can smile, wryly, and shake hands, because he remains neutral.

The Prime Minister rules, but I'm not sure he is any more experienced in these matters than the King, maybe less so.

MartavTaurus

Macaydia

I dont think our King needs advice. He has a lifetime of public relations experience.

Indeed, and if anyone can smooth things over, Charles can.

Really? An older person with a ceremonial role who is in poor health?

What can he smooth over exactly?

Trump loves royalty sixandahalf, the King is one of very few people he knows he can never aspire to be. It may be from his mother? He is probably more likely to listen to him than he is to any politician.

Part of me says no way should he go, but the other part says "why make a tough situation worse"

Keep friends close, keep enemies closer, etc

I don't doubt his ability to simply not engage in any talk related to the war as being inappropriate to his role

Really? An older person with a ceremonial role who is in poor health?
What can he smooth over exactly?

It is called diplomacy, and he has a lifetime's experience.

Most definitely he needs to visit! Undo some of the damage dangerous Starmer has done!

love0c, now that's quite an unsubstantiated claim.

Exactly what damage has Starmer done, and on what occasion, and in which way?

The general view from even those who don't like Starmer or agree with him is that on the whole he has done the best he can with a very difficult leader indeed in terms of tariffs and so on.

I cant think of any major incident where he has not represented our interests as effectively as possible

unless you are one of those who think we should have immediately followed the US into war with Iran

Wyllow£ Remove your rose tinted glasses. See how our country really is. Pretending everything is ok is terribly naive.

I don’t think the King should go, Trump has done nothing but berate Starmer and the government, most recently referring to our warships as toys and was disrespectful to our armed forces a short time ago. He is an insulting and uncouth individual who will probably not stop short of capitalising on the Kings visit, boasting on social media about how the King is a great guy unlike the loser Starmer - and yes that is how he now refers to him - and that he is supporting Trump in his efforts to bomb the hell out of Iran.
It could even be worse than that.
Certainly I don’t expect him to shut the hell up. That isn’t his MO. So in these difficult times with an illegal war raging and our PM and government facing hostile verbal attacks from Trump, I think is extremely ill advised for the King to go and play nice with the school bully.

Having said that have no doubt that the King will go as planned. Which is as crazy as everything else happening right now.

Of course he should go. It would be an enormous snub were he to cancel.

It’s all about doing what is best for this country, and whatever one’s views are of Trump, as the US president, he represents our biggest ally.

Regarding the King’s health, well that’s between him and his doctors.

What a pretty pass when Trump should be regarded as our biggest ally.

I think Charles will do whatever the government advise having regard to all their background knowledge. He has little choice. Poor bugger. At least he can play the "sick card" if necessary.

I was listening to Rory Stewart last night who defined Trump's evil nature as simply not caring what the outcomes of his actions might be for anyone - deaths, injuries, family misery, global financial disruption etc. Trump has/had no idea whatsoever what he was unleashing and cares less - but his ratings are going down at home so at least one good thing has happened in response to all the bereavements and pain.

Luckygirl3

‘ What a pretty pass when Trump should be regarded as our biggest ally.’

Indeed. With an ally like this who needs enemies.

Luckygirl3

What a pretty pass when Trump should be regarded as our biggest ally.

I think Charles will do whatever the government advise having regard to all their background knowledge. He has little choice. Poor bugger. At least he can play the "sick card" if necessary.

I was listening to Rory Stewart last night who defined Trump's evil nature as simply not caring what the outcomes of his actions might be for anyone - deaths, injuries, family misery, global financial disruption etc. Trump has/had no idea whatsoever what he was unleashing and cares less - but his ratings are going down at home so at least one good thing has happened in response to all the bereavements and pain.

Before Brexit, Europe was our greatest ally.

Trump does not care what happens to anyone else but Trump cares what happens to himself, therefore he can be influenced by someone tactful enough to be able to do so

The King has a hard furrow to plough, but he is loyal to his country and will do his best.

I hope the Palace is planning a plausible way out of this visit. Charles is quite elderly now and more prone to minor illnesses that would mean a trip to the US would be unwise.
If he does go I'm sure he will handle Trump with diplomacy and tact. Hopefully Trump will behave himself but that may be too much to ask for.

How about Charles staying in Canada but popping down for one ceremony on the 4th July then back to Canada?
With Trump's emperor complex he'll think that Charles has come to bow down to him.

I think the king will do his best, too. It is not in the UK’s interest for him to be rude or dismissive of Trump and I am sure he wouldn’t do that. I think Trump will fawn all over him.

Trump definitely has crown envy so hope that makes the visit tolerable for Charles

love0c

Wyllow£ Remove your rose tinted glasses. See how our country really is. Pretending everything is ok is terribly naive.

Just not as naive as pretending it is terrible. It isn’t.