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Feeling furious at this mornings BBC news.

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sodapop Sun 01-Jul-18 14:46:33

So many MP's live gilded lives so far removed from the average working person.
I agree with Teetime the whole model of care and funding needs to be changed in the light of our changing world

Teetime Sun 01-Jul-18 12:03:33

Oh dear this old chestnut of an idea goes around and around usually about the same time as women should stay at home and not work, break macarons and wear make up everyday so there husbands gaze on something nice.
What someone really needs to get their head around are new models of care for older people who need and by no means all of them do many maintain their independence virtually to the end but this is always left out of the discussion. The application of various health technologies is in its infancy in care facilities, the buildings are unsuitable and the model of care is dated and unsuited to the coming older generation (us). Cant really see myself playing organised bingo and joining in a sing a long.

Luckygirl Sun 01-Jul-18 11:51:26

I am just reading a book by Robert Peston called "WTF?", in which he is trying to analyse the reasons that the brexit vote went the way it did, and what the way forward is. He is clear that the reasons relate to the sort of pillock you watched on TV this morning - someone who pontificates with no real concept of what the main mass of the people actually go through or how we live - he sees the governments and bankers who have gone before as just such pillocks and himself feels ashamed that he had not grasped this.

The referendum was quite simply a chance for those people to give the complacent elite of bankers and politicians a bloody nose.

I think I would have been throwing things at the screen this morning too! Such ill-thought-out nonsense is not just from on-screen pontificators, but is in the mainstream of our policy-makers attitudes: austerity, Gove on education (what was good enough for me is good for all children) etc.

I have also just read "If only they did not speak English" by John Sopel (BBC US correspondent) and he postulates some very similar ideas in relation to the US - they have Trump because the ruling elites propped up bankers rather that hard-working normal members of the population.

It is a wider issue than just this one manon TV this morning.

kittylester Sun 01-Jul-18 11:33:23

He might have been the chair of the care homes association (possibly!!) I have 2x dgc here so can't be sure.

Jalima1108 Sun 01-Jul-18 11:18:57

Or, the way things are going, we could be euthanised
hmm

travelsafar Sun 01-Jul-18 11:15:02

I think we will all end up in the workhouse, they say everything goes round in circles. If you cant afford to pay for your care i do believe this will happen the way things are going, but under a different guise!!!

Jalima1108 Sun 01-Jul-18 11:13:23

I hope that he will lead by example.
Of course, it was a he as even in this day and age the care would fall mainly to the women of the family although there must be exceptions to that.
And he would presumably be able to pay for care for his elderly relatives.

We did manage to look after our elderly parents in varying ways but it was a struggle, especially with children (not adults) still at home.
I do not want to see my children stretched to breaking point like a piece of elastic.

goldengirl Sun 01-Jul-18 11:08:43

Write to Points of View morethan2. I'm sure you won't be alone. Was it a politician? They seem not to engage brain before opening their mouth on many occasions

morethan2 Sun 01-Jul-18 10:00:01

As I sat watching the guest speaker on BBC news this morning I wanted to throw somthing at the screen. He was talking about who’d look after the future elderly. In his opinion family should take their elderly relatives into their own home and care for them. Could he please tell me how that will be possible when, 1 future generations will probably have to work into their late 60’s. 2, if they do as he says they’ll compromise their own pensions contributions. 3, The next generation will probably still have mortgages because they bought in their late 30’s. 4, They will probably still have adult children at home. Now if he could have suggested some ways society could encourage his utopian ideas that would have been helpful, for example 1,up cares allowance in line of what the carer earned, 2 protect the cares pension contributions, provide financial help to make amendments to the house. My advice to him is “ if you can’t say anything useful don’t say anything at all. All you’ve done is make yourself look patronising. You’ve insulted and added to grief and guilt that lots of hardworking families who haven’t been able to care for the people they’ve lost and loved in their own homes. Just shut up. ?? I don’t know the answer to how my generation will be cared for our old age but one thing I do know is it won’t be his way. I’m sure gransnetters could come up with more sensible suggestions.