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Jane10 Thu 13-Aug-15 21:35:13

Well I can't say I was impressed by Paul Hollywood. He was quite rude to his mother I thought -telling her to get new lenses and sort of telling her to get on with it , bring all the papers and not in 18 trips. Then it all seemed a bit self indulgent. Millions of men fought in North Africa and Italy among other places. Maybe I'm in a bad mood but I just wondered how he seems to be such a big star and well aware of it too. Hhhmmm

Elegran Fri 25-Sept-15 11:11:50

John of Gaunt was another royal with many descendants.

Tegan Fri 25-Sept-15 10:50:25

I haven't seen last nights yet but plan to; I have so much respect for that man...a complete hero of mine.

annodomini Fri 25-Sept-15 10:46:50

It's estimated that 1 in 200 men alive today is descended from Ghengis Khan. Sadly, I don't think WDYTYA could get hold of the documentation for that.

durhamjen Fri 25-Sept-15 10:37:32

It was a bit weird seeing him on the news straight after. I found it a problem listening to what he was saying without thinking about him being descended from royalty.

granjura Fri 25-Sept-15 10:31:30

how on earth can one hold 'posh' or 'poor' or even 'criminal' ancestry against someone? You can of course be fascinated or shocked- to find out the princes or skeletons in the family cupboard- but surely not ashamed. How can one be responsible for one's forebears' deeds?

Thinking about the line of succession, I think last night's showed that, if the direct line had not been tampered with (by giving the Crown to others thant those in line, even foreigners, when it suited) it would make Gardner closer to succeed than our (German) royals.

Remember the documentary of Lord Hastings, of Ashby-de-la-Zouch Castle, who was proven to be the direct successor to the Crown. He had emigrated to Australia where he was a sheep farmer and a staunch republican.

rosequartz Fri 25-Sept-15 10:06:58

The Welsh surnames are the most difficult to research. So many with the same name and probably unrelated.
Unless your surname is Tudor of course!

Anniebach Fri 25-Sept-15 09:55:18

I too enjoyed this weeks episode . I very much doubt everyone is descended from royalty, certainly not mine, Anglesey,Wales is the most difficult county to research and I doubt anyone of noble birth ! bothered to row across to the Island

rosequartz Fri 25-Sept-15 09:41:51

I really enjoyed this episode (I was beginning to think I wouldn't bother any more).
I did comment to DH that there is more documentation still in existence if your family was in the higher echelons.
DM's cousin is descended from Edward IV - so presumably William the Conqueror - and they were always referred to as 'the posh side of the family'. I don't think (like some) that everyone is descended from royalty - some of our ancestors must have been the serfs and foot soldiers! grin

gillybob how wonderful to have all that family history - most of our stuff had been thrown out as 'not needed now'!

kittylester Fri 25-Sept-15 09:28:56

On of DH's sayings is that everyone has their cross to bear and, in this case, being 'posh' didn't help much.

Luckygirl Fri 25-Sept-15 09:24:32

I do not hold his "posh" against him - he just seemed a nice guy - that will do for me! And he was clearly very devoted to his Mum and was missing her.

trisher Fri 25-Sept-15 09:20:20

Enjoyed Frank Gardener interesting and informative. Obviously a "posh" family but not without its trials and misfortunes. A GG who was in an asylum and an ancestor who was beheaded, fascinating stuff.

Nelliemoser Fri 25-Sept-15 07:55:38

This goes to show that those whose families had money and influence centuries back have left more records of their existence than those who are poor.

We all have family going back to the time of the Norman conquest and before we just did not make it to national records.

In my family I had a few literate ancestors in Cheshire in the 18 century. famers with a bit of land whose children had an education and were in business. The Ag labs and framework knitters on the other side left little trace other than parish records.

gillybob Fri 25-Sept-15 07:51:54

I agree with HildaW I really didn't like Anne Reid very much at all. Enjoyed Frank Gardener last night although they were all a bit too "posh" for me.

I am very fortunate to be able to go back to the early 1800's in my own family without even trying. My grandma kept everything. War records, birth certificates, marriage certificates, brass rubbings, maps of where to find gravestones, old pay packets and thousands upon thousands of amazing photographs all of which we have talked about over the years making it quite easy to put names to faces. There's one thing for certain, there won't be any royal blood in my family !

Leticia Fri 25-Sept-15 07:37:31

I liked the fact that it got beyond one person.
I expect that when we get back to the 29x greats we could often get back to royalty when they double each time.

whitewave Fri 25-Sept-15 07:21:21

Haven't seen Frank Gardener yet though.

kittylester Fri 25-Sept-15 07:19:59

It was fascinating! And, I always knew that Frank Gardner would be a nice man!

whitewave Fri 25-Sept-15 07:18:10

I must be the only one who enjoyed the Anne Reid one. I love colourful characters, who say things that make other people react, - rather like the grans really. There are one or two grans who do the same and it never fails to create a reaction - grin

chelseababy Fri 25-Sept-15 07:10:26

I've been watching some of the American version on Watch. They make a pleasant change of perspective, apart from the adverts. I've never heard of some of the subject's but it's usually still interesting.

Elrel Fri 25-Sept-15 00:51:30

Good programme - reminded me why I started watching the series; after the Anne Reid one I almost stopped.

durhamjen Fri 25-Sept-15 00:10:37

My grandchildren can.
Two of them have a Danish mother whose parents can trace back to real Viking blood; the other two have a Norwegian grandfather who can do similarly.

rubysong Fri 25-Sept-15 00:04:13

I enjoyed this week's programme. I don't think I have any monarchs on my family tree. How interesting that the 'came over with the Normans' story has persisted in Frank Gardener's family. I know someone who swears she can prove her descent from Vikings; I am a bit sceptical.

fluttERBY123 Thu 24-Sept-15 22:58:33

I enjoyed the F Gardner prog. But if W the Conqueror was an ancestor so were a large number of other people. Going backwards it keeps doubling, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024.......so interesting but somewhat misleading. That's 10 generations and I believe Frank's line went back 23.

Pittcity Thu 24-Sept-15 22:18:18

Frank Gardner was very interesting. He didn't say anything stupid when he learnt that his obviously innocent ancestor was beheaded a la Anne Reid!

The fact that he proved a belief held by his recently deceased mother made the programme more enjoyable.

Luckygirl Thu 24-Sept-15 22:06:14

Perhaps we all are!!

annodomini Thu 24-Sept-15 22:04:38

He turns out to be descended from William I as, I seem to remember did Alexander Armstrong when he was on the programme.