Foyle...a new mini-series starts tonite!

I agree Grannyknot it was stupid to go bumbling around the fellow's study when it was obvious there were other people in the house.

It was predictable but comparing it with other programmes on recently, this was good. I did enjoy watching it although there were obvious mistakes.

Honeysuckle should have been blooming if pregnant, not looking so gaunt.

We enjoyed it but I'm getting increasingly annoyed by the modern attitudes given to characters in historic dramas. The sub-plot about women's rights seemed to have been nailed on and the issue about women losing their jobs when the men came back couldn't be given enough time. It was an important issue, just as women losing their jobs when they married or became pregnant was. And I agree with everyone who says Sam was hopeless at undercover work!

I lost the plot a bit over the Russian connection I have to admit. Not sure why it was they who murdered the US tycoon as soon as they heard he was off to Iran - Persia was mentioned too I think, as Sam said something like "Isn't that Persia?"

The old man (Martin Crane - Frazier's dad) sussed Sam but his arrogant son didn't listen to him. But yes, the plot was somewhat confused. Why is it that superannuated detectives like Foyle and Frost are kept on for series after series when they should be relaxing in their carpet slippers?

But Kitchen is such an excellent actor, and he has really made that part his own - I don't mind that he is a bit long n the tooth - so am I!

I have recorded the programme and will watch it again in order to try and work it all out.

I had to google the Persia/Iran thing because I thought they'd got it wrong but apparently Persia became Iran in 1935!!

Same here- I was surprised.

Agreed he is a brilliant actor, and so understated as said before- it would be truly wrong to 'replace' him.

It just shows how long wars and lies have been going on in the name of petrol. The allegations made about the UK GVT protecting German business men and exports of goods, etc, to help the Luftwaffe and German army were truly shocking.

I may have to miss out on Foyles War as DH finds it boring!!! Very annoying as Michael Kitchen has always been on my list of the Top 5 TV Actors. He's one of those people who rarely appear in anything second rate. I first remember him years ago playing Branwell Bronte, then later on he did that lovely play where he was trapped on a train with a weird old lady ( Peggy Ashcroft?)

I too was irritated by the feminist slant which I don't think was actually around in those days.

If you don't think there were any feminists after the war petallus and Grannyknot where do you think they all sprang from in the 60s. I should think there were quite a few feeling discontented about how they were treated. Interesting to hear about the closing of the free nurseries which had enabled women to work during the war.

Much of the feminist thinking came from the very working class (as they would see themselves) and the universities the educated, intelligent women of that era and built up to spill out as it did in the 60s so I think the programme was very true to the time. It was more the middle class bourgeoisie who wanted what they saw as a return to the "norm" and painted the picture of women in the kitchen with beautifully neat hair and immaculate apron waiting for her husband to come home and say goodnight to his wonderfully behaved children.

I do love the programme but it had to move on and change - the war is over!

Well said Gracesgran. Emancipation of women and the desire to get the monstrous regiments back in the kitchen is a recurring theme isn't it. Damn those noisy women who expect equality

My complaint is that although it regularly pops up in historical dramas, the position of women at the time is just set dressing in most of them, like men wearing hats or everyone smoking all the time. For example, I grew up in the 1950s and it drives me mad when I hear some woman on television confidently state that married women couldn't go out to work but had to stay at home during the postwar period (or even the 1970s!) Most of the women I knew did have jobs, starting with the women who taught me from nursery up to university. It's a complex subject and deserves more than being used to lend authenticity to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative!

Foyle and Midwives have reminded me (painfully) what a very poor state post-war much of Britain was in.

Gracesgran i'm sure there were discontented women around in those days but the concept of feminism at a social level did not seem all that prevalent in my social circles in the 40s.

Not only that but women who became feminists in the 1960s (wasn't it later than that, the 1970s?) were only children in the era of Foyle's War.

My grandmother was a feminist she was born in the 1890's

I started at the grammar school in 1958 and we were certainly talking about equality then.

Feminist men may have been thin on the ground but when my mother was in the ATS during the war she had one CO who was very keen for the women he commanded to have a say in how things were done and to back them when other officers thought they had been a bit too liberated.

petallus. What about the suffragettes? And the Bluestockings?

Didn't much like tonight's episode somehow. Depressing. Some things just haven't changed much!

I agree, 2 hours was too long.

I find it hard to follow because they all sound the same and wear the same clothes. It takes me about half and hour to work out who is who. OH is not help - he doesn't know either.

I am fascinated by all the things that remind me how my grandmother's home was - the brown lino - and the crossover aprons - my gran wore one nearly all the time.

I went to a school nursery and my DM worked, albeit part-time. That was in the late 1940s/1950.
My friend's DM was an infant teacher at our school.

However, most of the mistresses at High school were single.

We have recorded it so that we can zip through the adverts (only about 1.5 hours then!)

Enjoyed the one concerning the St David Hotel.

It's a bit depressing to think the story line is just as apt for today.

SPOILER ALERT - for anyone who has not yet watched the last episode.

How come the man (name forgotten) who was sitting the other side of the desk from Miss Pearce did not get blown to bits as well?

I thought he did. What makes you think he didn't? Have I missed something?

I presumed he was....was it because we didn't see his funeral that you thought that? I found myself curiously affected by the story of Elise and woke up a couple if tunes thinking about what risks these operatives took. Did they record Morse transmissions in those days? Seems a bit advanced.