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Scratch choirs and scratch orchestras

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onmyown Thu 20-Nov-14 20:06:03

I've been in a scratch (community) choir for 5 years. I've loved every minute. All members have different levels of experience and abilities, and we are led by a great community choir leader who produces great results (a bit like Gareth Malone, but don't tell him).

Now I am trying out a scratch orchestra, after many years of not playing the violin. My bow wobbles and sounds - yes - scratchy. My arm is probably in the wrong place. But I am trying to play popular/film/latin American/rock and roll/backing music.

I've always wanted to do it, and I'm loving it, but its tough going.

Is it worth continuing?

onmyown Sun 23-Nov-14 17:59:54

NellieMoser - take no notice of the disdainful response you received -

In my experience, choral come-and-sing days are brilliant - go for the Hayden Nelson Mass if you are familiar with choral singing, or want to try it for the first time (just look at the music if it is provided, and open and shut your mouth as if you know what's going on, that's what our community choir leader advises).

(At the last event I partook in, an old hand told me that quite honestly, a lot of people in the Choral Society were often a bit all over the place, it wasn't just the newcomers!)

You might have been unimpressed by a previous performance, but if you are familiar with the format or are adventurous, trying out a new experience, then go along, snuck in and try it out - as you say, come-and-sing days can be great fun. I've sung along in the last two years, in several events (Brahms, Mendlessohn, Elgar, Handel) led by our local Choral Society choirmaster who is very welcoming to newcomers (although often ascerbic with his comments, as so many choirmasters are! - take no notice, I think they all aspire to be prima donnas!)

And if we are not sure about what is going on we just keep quiet - best bet is to stand next to someone who really knows the piece!).

You refer to "a disdainful response from someone about it being an "amateur performance". You say "I was too gobsmacked to reply. In Britain we have a fantastic tradition of choral societies made up of non professionals and many of them are very good indeed."

Forget the sender of the disdainful reply. There is a lot of snobbery around classical music but fortunately it is dying a death (slowly). Community choirs are moving in, infiltrating and allowing for more than one style of choir singing to blossom? See the Proms - all the classics and all the modern composers - alongside musicals, Gilbert and Sullivan, film music. What's not to like? Excellence in all musical fields, genres, whatever, is wonderful. smile

PS - I had to Google for the spelling of Mendlessohn. Hope that's right.

PPS - about female tenors -

A few years ago I came back to choral singing (I was a soprano when young, good enough to do serious school solos) after a gap of 30 years, and sang as a wobbly alto at a day choral-sing-along. There was a woman there who sang tenor. Wow, I thought, I feel comfortable singing down there.

So a year later I went along to a come-all-ye to sing Haydn's "Creation" (which I had sung many years ago). "I would like to sing tenor" I said to the choir master. He laughed in scorn. I never went back.

A few years later I tentatively joined my current community choir and said "Can I sing tenor" - no problem, I was welcomed aboard. We have a number of female tenors. Tenors are always in short supply and although we do not (yet) have the strength and power of male tenors we are welcome. So any female tenors, go for it.

Mishap Sun 23-Nov-14 18:05:32

Onmyown - thanks for your kind comments. The rehearsal went brilliantly I am told - so many kind people got back to me to tell me; and some friends have recorded parts of it for me, which was very kind and I cannot wait to hear it.

onmyown Sun 23-Nov-14 18:06:51

Nelliemoser - I meant to say also:

Even if you have never done it before but want to give it a try - go for it. Grab the music, hide behind it, and stand next to a confident singer - failing that stand next to a newcomer like you and see what happens! - enjoy smile

Ariadne Sun 23-Nov-14 18:09:09

Such enthusiasm is fascinating to read.

Mishap Sun 23-Nov-14 18:09:10

I should ad that the opportunity to bring the love of singing to lots of people has been a joy and a huge privilege.

I have always been a singer, but have little in the way of formal qualifications (just some grade exams) - my chance came when a local community music charity decided that my history as a social worker and also singing and choir-running skills could be combined to help them deliver singing for all, especially disadvantaged groups. This charity had faith in me and took a chance on me and it has hugely enriched my life - I will always be in their debt.

janerowena Mon 24-Nov-14 13:39:00

What you do is wonderful, mishap. I know how much organisation is involved.

Our community choir has a couple of lady tenors too. We do have male tenors, but the ladies pick and choose which song they feel happiest singing in, sometimes tenor1, sometimes alto2. It does alter the sound, but it's still really nice.

Ariadne it's the best way I know of thoroughly enjoying myself, keeping my brain active, having a wonderful social life AND raising money for charity. Although sometimes I wish we could claim our subscriptions back when we make a lot of money.