Well that was the biggest load of tosh

Have not seen it but the Sunday paper reviewers seem to veer from 'brave' (code for overblown tosh) to bizarre......so I've pretty well put it into the 'might watch it when it comes onto Channel 4 in a couple of years time category'.....but only if there is absolutely nothing else on.

Wise decision Hilda, very wise .

Thanks for the review I won't bother wasting my money then

Now you need to read the reviews, find the critic that agreed with you about Noah and always read his/her reviews to guide you in future decisions. Can I recommend 'The Lunchbox' It was a lovely film.

Good idea re critic Pent. I haven't seen The Lunchbox, I'll make sure I do.

Can't have been as bad as Under the Skin with Scarlett Johansenn [sp]. Think she was conned into baring all for what was meant to be an art house sci fi film but it was just plain boring. Watched The Descendants last night and thought it was a very sweet film [the directors 'Nebraska was my film of the year last year]. Director makes films about very difficult subjects but in a very charming way; not easy to do. Will check out The Lunchbox.

Tegan there was an article about Adam Pearson in the paper today, It was interesting. I am 'boycotting' Scarlett Johannsen..but that's a different story!

I had no idea that the actor had a medical condition; I thought it was make up. In which case I feel he was exploited also .

The actor applied for the role and, from what he said in his Observer interview, it seems that he found the experience rewarding and enjoyable. He thought it was a good thing that people with unconventional appearances could be approached to take on such roles, rather than make-up or prosthetics being used.

saw NOAH on Saturday too baubles, didnt float my boat either. Overblown tosh. The biggest problem for me was the daughter in law, I just kept seeing Hermione from the Harry Potter series, not her fault, but I had a credibility issue. Also, being ever practical, I wondered what they ate? Were we really supposed to believe that they were vegans? Scratching about on that barren landscape?

I saw NOAH last week and thought it was laughable! Actually the biblical account of Noah is a pretty good story: they didn't need to mess about with it, omitting God and the other 2 DIL s and adding in ridiculous concrete monsters. As for Noah getting some mad idea about having to murder his grandchild if it turned out to be a girl.....stupid, unnecessary, unbelievable....!
Still, it wasn't the worst film I've seen lately, and it's pretty rare to find any film that has no swearing or turgid sex scenes !
Btw GillT57, yes, mankind was vegetarian (probably not vegan) until after the flood. Of course, the landscape presumably wasn't barren; in the film they were trying to say (I think) that man had spoiled the earth and that's why the pickings were slim!

Thanks jacqui60 I stand corrected, I didnt know about mankind being vegetarian until after the flood, missed that bit at Sunday School!

Umm?? How do we know man did not eat flesh prior to the story of the flood?

But is that true? Did Abel keep his flock of sheep strictly for wool and sacrifices?

And why were some of the animals entering the Ark clean (to eat?) And unclean (not to be eaten?).

The Flood started when Noah was 600 (!) so how accurate are any dates and do we have evidence of prehistoric man hunting and eating meat before the supposed date of the Flood?

I think that I'm right in saying that when God created Adam and Eve He gave them all the plants and herbs of every sort to eat; no mention of eating any of the animals, who they were told to name. Their diet is mentioned several times but only regarding plants, seeds and herbs. After the Flood Noah and his family were told they could eat anything that moved!! (As well as the plants). I believe it was later that Moses was given rules about eating clean/unclean animals; up until then the relevance of being clean/unclean was in relation to their acceptability for sacrifice. That is what the Bible tells us but of course amongst non-believers there is a lot of debate about dates!

Not only was man vegetarian, but so were all the animals - presumably the talking snake was too... and the dinosaurs...

Yes of course, I had forgotten that aspect! Dinosaurs are another discussion altogether!! It has been suggested by some that there may have been people who broke this rule, as they broke all the other rules, and actually ate meat. That doesn't seem impossible; there is no mention of it in the Bible though. Shepherds would have kept sheep for their wool (and associated products? Lanolin etc?) and milk.

Surely we can't really believe any of the dates in the Bible as it is reported that people lived for hundreds of years, so they must have had a different system of counting.
And surely the way it is written is as simple tales for simple people? I don't mean simple as in stupid, but perhaps naive. And a way to keep the population in order.

I do not think it is necessarily the word of God, more a history story which may not be wholly accurate.

Why do we have canine teeth? Or have these developed since those times? What evidence is there apart from these stories that men were not omnivores?

Well, chimpanzees eat meat if they can get it (hunting colobus monkeys through the trees and tearing apart their flesh with obvious relish) and our DNA is only 2% different from theirs, so I'd say it is VERY likely that we have always eaten some meat from the year dot. We got better at catching it once we had invented the tools to do it more efficiently, and with the extra protein we could be better nourished and able to spend our time on more intellectual and creative pursuits.

If you are keeping sheep for their wool and milk, you have to have lambs every year to get the milk. There is a limit to the size of herd that a given area will sustain, so you eat the male lambs as soon as they have put on enough weight to make a good meal or two.

Hunter-gatherers?

Hunting berries then gathering them presumably.
Presumably they used the animal bones found in caves just to hook down the higher branches to pick the berries.

www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/evidence-for-meat-eating-by-early-humans-103874273

I'll ask Russell Crowe.

Oh don"t Rose he is my pin-up and mine alone.
I am NOT sharing , get your own!!!!!!!!!
In fact he told me on the QT that he really,really likes me !
I have not told him indoors!