Why calling people climate change deniers is wrong

Puts things in perspective, doesn't it, jeni? Good to look at the big picture.

Actually bags, that was one of the most sensible articles I've read.
Thanks for bringing it to attention

Yes, MrsJJ, those sandals are like a hair shirt - too penitential for words. Must donate mine to the charity shop.

What has climate change got to do with the thickness of stockings?

Love the thought of those sandals, MrsJamJam!

Agreed Mrs JamJam. No-one really knows, so best to be on the safe side when possible.

Very interesting article, but I still feel stuck between warring factions (over climate change), each of whom only give us the facts that back up their own point of view, so that it is impossible for a mere mortal (me) to have a properly informed opinion.

So I shall continue to do my little best to not waste the earth's resources, tend my veg patch etc etc - but also put on the heating when the house is too cold for comfort and use the car when I want to visit my grandchildren.

I'm not yet ready for hand knitted muesli sandals!

Same here, Butter!

I didn't know what 'ad hominem' meant until I looked it up. Interesting! .

They can agree intellectually, which is all I expect . Their emotions might well be different, naturally.

Oh Butternut!

Well, that's one way of looking at it! Not sure if the lancastrians would agree right now.

In the long term I think one 'side' will be convinced that the other 'side' had more of scientific right on their side. The proof will be in the pudding.

to jing: localised bad weather is not a sign of climate change. There has always been localised bad weather somewhere or other. Besides, it's only bad weather if it affects people adversely, such as by flooding their homes. In terms of building up the nation's water supply, it could be called good weather.

j04 I found your comment to me uncalled for. My opinion on the climate change debate does not mean I do not care for those in Lancashire.

I try to keep out of this debate because neither 'side' will ever be convinced by the other. 'Deniers' is a misleading term because I don't think anyone is denying that climate change happens or, indeed, is happening. The difference is that one side attributes these changes to the effects of human activity; the other sees change as natural and inevitable no matter what human beings are doing. Scientists disagree. Why should the rest of us be any different?

Thank you, Bags! Most interesting.

Tell that to the people in Lancashire today Butternut.

My view, jings, is that the people who invented the word 'deniers' for scientific scepticism regarding the climate change group think, just didn't have strong arguments when what they said was challenged. Why else resort to such childishness?

Glad you found it useful, butty. It is well written and balanced, isn't it?

j04 - My comment about feeling balanced wasn't clear. I meant to say "I have a feeling about being balanced with it".

I don't think there is a 'right' or 'wrong' about the climate - it's just doing what it does.

I'm not sure how balanced it is at the moment! That very dry Winter, and now the rain coming down in bucketfuls resulting in the flooding they've got up North at the moment.

Something's not right.

Bags I get fed up with these minor scientists sniping at each other instead of sticking to the scientific facts. Why did they ever need to invent the term 'deniers'?

it only makes sense with tights

Well, I should be out gardening, but decided to take time to sit and read this link, before tackling the veg.patch.

Thank you for this B, because it has given me a 'light-bulb' moment in understanding why, specifically in scientific terms, the use of the word 'denier' is seen as highly derogatory. I also thoroughly enjoyed reading it, not just because of it's clarity, but because it also informs me of an area where I have little academic knowledge, only a deep sense of the natural cycle of our world.
There's a feeling of being balanced with it.