The main tenet of Christian doctrine?

I was brought up in the Church of Scotland and knew (still know) the Bible fairly well. According to St Paul: 'If Christ is not risen, then is your faith vain'. Which means that to him at least the resurrection was what validated all the teachings of Jesus and the doctrines of the early church. And, as I cannot believe in the physical resurrection - and that belief is part of the Apostles' Creed - but willingly follow the ethical teachings of Jesus, I call myself a Christian Humanist.

jO5. I may not always agree with you, but I'm with Ariadne, Nightowl and petallus on this one.

Christian Humanist sounds interesting.

I shall discuss it with my friend the vicar when I see him for lunch later today.

Do any of you feel you have done something so bad that somebody had to die horribly to expiate it? I don't think I have.
Jingle - I am with you on this. Not necessary and not kind.

If God's will is so clear, why does his Church on earth not know what he feels about homosexuality?

Thank you Greatnan and Anno.

You back safe and sound from your holiday trip Greatnan?

Oh no, you're not (seen other thread)

I have been visiting my sister in Manchester, jingle, and took her up to her son's house in Coatbridge for Christmas. I am back in Switzerland on Sunday, and France on Monday, then I am off to NZ on 11th February. It was nice for my sister to see her grandchildren open their presents.

Jingle, we have got to stop meeting like this - people will talk!

JO5 that remark was right out of order! Un-parliamentary language or what ever. I have no problem with healthy disagreement but using an outright insulting remark is not right.

Unparliamentary language UK as per wikipeadia

United Kingdom In House of Commons of the United Kingdom,
the following words have been deemed unparliamentary over time: blackguard, coward, git, guttersnipe, hooligan, hypocrite, idiot, ignoramus, liar, pipsqueak,[12] rat, swine, stoolpigeon, tart and traitor.[13]

Furthermore, 'sod', 'slimy', 'wart', accusations of 'crooked deals' or insinuation of the use of banned substances by a member are also considered unparliamentary language (all attributable to Dennis Skinner).[14]

other countires have some evenmore provocative remarks,

How to waste time on t'internet!

Jingle When I read Dorset's comment, I felt that it was totally out of order, unnecessary and VERY unkind. ...for you.

soop are you kidding me - out of order and unkind - have not seen any of the remarks that JO5 has said on this thread and other threads ? She has made some very unpleasant remarks - I've had three PM's about just this. Or are you all part of that little clique that is so prevalent on Gransnett

I can't say I've noticed any cliques on GN, dorset.

Lots of friendships and support though, which I and others value.

dorset I was shocked when I read your remark and I am certainly not part of any clique on here. What's more, I don't think anyone can accuse jingl of all people of being part of any clique. I just felt your remark was uncalled for and also out of character from what I have seen of your other posts, hence my face.

dorset Is "little clique" meant as a jibe...poke in the eye...sarcastic aside? Friendships, have been formed as a result of members sharing and supporting each other through many experiences. Sometimes, within the friendship, there is friction and we certainly do not always agree with each other. However, I thought that your comment to jingl was extremely rude.

I simply see this as a forum, and I don't think that saying someone's comments are incredibly stupid is a wise remark to make. If you disagree with what someone says, then set out your reasons and explain why. A blanket statement like that will achieve nothing more than to antagonise those who read it.

I haven't made more than a couple of posts on Gransnet,but have recently started to look at the forums. When I read the very unkind and unnecessary post to which you refer,I was puzzled that no one had responded to it. I am glad that others have shown support now ,as as a newcomer I did not feel I should be the first to comment.

Welcome agapanthus

I think some of us are reluctant to appear to be stepping in, or complaining, on behalf of someone else these days. It's a tricky one.

agapanthus Sometimes it seems we are damned if we do and damned if we don't. If several people object simultaneously to a post, the poster thinks it is a clique ganging up on them. If no-one objects immediately, then the person spoken roughly to thinks it is a clique who don't care what is said about anyone else .......

Goodness!cliques online.I am learning!

Thanks for your welcome soop!

Welcome Agapanthus , enjoy your time here .

Agapanthus - I remember your occasional posts from way back - because of your name. Beautiful flowers - and I discovered this year there's a white variety!

Oh - and I forgot to say - Welcome back!