Priti Patel, PLEASE recognise and use the letter G!

Sigh again. This subject goes far beyond a forum thread. I suggest that if people really want to try to understand why other people speak in a way that differs from themselves, that they study linguistics,phonetics, morphology and syntax and cross reference those with sociology, psychology and geography.

The overpronounced g in ing endings used to be a feature of English as it is spoken in Derbyshire. Where you could even hear singing with both g's pronounced very audibly.

Personally, I am more irritated by the extra r inserted into words such as draw, which an increasing number of people pronounce as drarw these days.

Anyone else annoyed by drawr, drawring drarwers etc.?

Sorry Jane10 I'm inclined to disagree, but happy to be proved wrong.

Which particular dialects habitually drop their aitches?

There is still such a thing as Received Pronunciation, even if it isn’t called that any longer. Anyone with an ear for language recognises it when they hear it.

Jane10

There is no 'wrong'! Received pronunciation was discredited and dropped long ago.

Should that be wron?

It's dialectal! Oh no another massive topic.

I have no problem with regional accents, but agree with Lexisgranny about the glottal stop! I also ponder one of lifes mysteries, namely:

Why is it usually the people who drop the letter H at the beginning of a word, refer to it as "Haitch"

Come to Wales there aren’t many g’s here.
Watch the One Show Alex Jones never ends words with a g.

Priti Patel makes as little effort to speak in a comprehensive manner as she does to understand what is going on in this country and act accordingly.

Like the rest of her colleagues, she has been given a job well beyond her capability because of her blind loyalty to the Vote Leave government.

Thank you annsixty glad that's been cleared up

People tend to forget that correct enunciation assists those who are hard of hearing.
A lack of care about the way you speak is a form of discrimination....(that should put the cat among the pigeons)

Can't tell you how many programmes DH and I turn off due to mumbling /background noise/regional accents. What with my tinnitus and his hearing aids, lazy modern speech loses us.

Phoenix
Thank you for your PM pointing out my mistake.
I have checked the snowflake thread and you are quite right, I had misread and I apologise.

There is no 'wrong'! Received pronunciation was discredited and dropped long ago.

I think that we are fortunate that we have so many rich dialects in our country, and I welcome the fact that we hear so many of them on tv and radio, instead of the ‘received pronunciation’ that we used to hear. However something that really grates on me is the current trend to pronounce words such as ‘Matter’ as ‘Ma-uh’. I can cope with a dropped ‘g’, but bring back the glottal stop.

When I think of how the queen USED to talk, she pronounced words in ways I'm sure were wrong.

Of course, she has toned it down, or commoned it up since then.

The 'g' should be barely pronounced in received pronunciation.

Yes, Priti Patel tends to emphasise the 'n' as if the 'g' is non-existent. I've met other people who do same.

However, it's what she says that matters.

Dropping or accentuating the 'g' at the end of 'ing' is a regional thing.

Argh you still don't get it. Accents arise from different pronunciations of various vowels and consonants. These reflect regional variations among other things including social class and education.
Forget the spelling of words. Orthography came long after spoken language.

Please don’t misunderstand - I love different accents (I’m Welsh, for a start) and agree that of course there is no ‘proper’ accent. This is an accuracy argument.

Aaargh!! There is no 'proper' accent! It's outrageous to try to impose personal preferences on how other people pronounce words. Non native English speakers often retain their own accent which can be charming eg French.

Agree NanKate , this is not about accents at all, it’s just about accuracy. If you were teaching English as an aquired language (or whatever it’s called now) you wouldn’t instruct learners ‘Oh, by the way , you can pronounce ‘doing’ or ‘learning’ with or without the final ‘g’, it’s entirely up to you’. Well, I wouldn’t, anyway.
I swore last night I wouldn’t comment on this thread again as it seems to annoy people! Yet here I am....... I’ll go back to Coronavirus. Less controversial!

I’m with you Phoenix I regularly shout at the bad pronunciation on radio and tv. It all goes back to my childhood when we were regularly told to ‘speak properly’. I do love accents though, it’s slovenly speech that irritates me.

annsixty if you back to the post you mentioned you will. Sees that Daisydoes is talking about her Dil, and says the the Dil's father did everything for her, which has made her incapable.

Why is it apparently OK to criticise how someone sounds (based purely on personal preference) yet its not acceptable to criticise a person's appearance?

I thought John Nettles narrated Devon And Cornwall.

He did sound as if he had a cold when he recorded the narration this week!