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Rachel Reeves and David Lammy have been sacked by Andy Burnham as the Prime Minister begins appointing his Cabinet.

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 20-Jul-26 16:16:54

A good start in my opinion.

DamaskRose Mon 20-Jul-26 20:28:12

Such a lot of inaccurate, predictable sniping at Angela Rayner. I’m surprised her choice of clothing hasn’t been ridiculed. I wish this administration and these ministers all the luck in the world - for the good of the UK. I don’t care what qualifications they do or don’t have as long as they do a good job.

craqdi Mon 20-Jul-26 20:25:51

United Kingdom is on its way to becoming a secondary Peru, a merkel or a staunch thatcher who puts on the nation apart from the current party, the tone he has taken, I do not like I could follow a line to the blair that seems inadequate to me

Casdon Mon 20-Jul-26 20:20:48

I’m glad Pat McFadden is staying on, and pleased that Yvette Cooper has got Health, she’s a grafter and she will put in the work needed. Nothing for Streeting yet.

Tuliptree Mon 20-Jul-26 20:12:56

Primrose53

Split hairs then! Haigh is still guilty of fraud. Surely there are better people than her in Labour. Maybe not.

I don't think being accurate is splitting hairs. Your post made it sound as though she committed the offence whilst a minister. I think the charge was actually misrepresentation ( which ironically enough we see examples of on this thread). . She is apparently very able and did well whilst in post.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 20-Jul-26 20:11:49

Hilary Benn has been sacked as Northern Ireland secretary, a role he has held for the duration of the Starmer administration.

Tuliptree Mon 20-Jul-26 20:09:10

eazybee

Rayner left school without a single qualification to her name and has made no attempt whatsoever to remedy that lack.She gained her positions in the Labour Party because of Union pressure but has achieved little.
Her dubious financial dealings led to her resignation from her last post because: " in matters relating to to this matter she cannot be considered to have met the highest possible standards of proper conduct as envisaged by the code. Therefore I inform you that the code has been breached." (Sir Laurie Magnus)
Someone mentioned John Major lacking a degree. His childhood was also difficult with an impecunious father and an ill mother, although I don't recall him complaining, and he achieved little at school, but managed to take banking qualifications and progressed to a successful career in the banking world, and later in politics, ending as Prime Minister.

I really don't know where to start wit this misleading, skewed account of AR's life and her success in making something of herself after a very difficult start. Re the stamp duty, she was found to have breached the ministerial code and paid the price. Now she is probably being given another chance. Why not? She's not a serial offender.

Casdon Mon 20-Jul-26 20:06:07

What you say about Rayner’s qualifcations is untrue eazybee. She has a level 2 NVQ in Care. Passing an NVQ Level 2 equates to achieving 4 to 5 GCSE passes at grades 9 to 4 (formerly A* to C).

Primrose53 Mon 20-Jul-26 20:02:04

Split hairs then! Haigh is still guilty of fraud. Surely there are better people than her in Labour. Maybe not.

eazybee Mon 20-Jul-26 20:01:29

Rayner left school without a single qualification to her name and has made no attempt whatsoever to remedy that lack.She gained her positions in the Labour Party because of Union pressure but has achieved little.
Her dubious financial dealings led to her resignation from her last post because: " in matters relating to to this matter she cannot be considered to have met the highest possible standards of proper conduct as envisaged by the code. Therefore I inform you that the code has been breached." (Sir Laurie Magnus)
Someone mentioned John Major lacking a degree. His childhood was also difficult with an impecunious father and an ill mother, although I don't recall him complaining, and he achieved little at school, but managed to take banking qualifications and progressed to a successful career in the banking world, and later in politics, ending as Prime Minister.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 20-Jul-26 19:56:59

Fair enough Casdon.

Tuliptree Mon 20-Jul-26 19:55:30

Primrose53

Louise Haigh who was forced to resign when she was convicted of fraud has a job! OMG He’s really scraping the barrel.

I think this can be reworded more accurately.

She resigned when her conviction ( for which she received a conditional discharge and was spent as it was years before) was revealed in the media. KS had known all about the conviction but shamefully refused to stand by her. She is apparently very able and will be an asset to the government.

Sorted. You're welcome

Primrose53 Mon 20-Jul-26 19:55:16

Yvette Cooper - Health. That’s a relief. Hope she does a good job.

So what will Ange get?

OldFrill Mon 20-Jul-26 19:51:46

Primrose53

Louise Haigh who was forced to resign when she was convicted of fraud has a job! OMG He’s really scraping the barrel.

"Forced to resign" that's a stretch (tpip)

Casdon Mon 20-Jul-26 19:51:11

I read what she said as that she was offered one of the other two senior roles, but declined. I don’t suppose we’ll ever find out for sure though.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 20-Jul-26 19:48:24

Well if she’s not got any of those she was offered a ‘lesser role’ then.

fancythat Mon 20-Jul-26 19:47:32

M0nica

Loyalty is never a mistake.

Oh it most certainly can be.

Too many examples in life to even list.
How about the mother who hid the weapon in a murder.

Casdon Mon 20-Jul-26 19:45:18

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Well I suppose anything less than Chancellor of the Exchequer might be considered ‘a more junior role’ Casdon?

There are the ‘big three’ - Foreign and Home Secretaries and Chancellor.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 20-Jul-26 19:45:11

Surprised no Wes Streeting. (Yet)

Primrose53 Mon 20-Jul-26 19:44:32

Louise Haigh who was forced to resign when she was convicted of fraud has a job! OMG He’s really scraping the barrel.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 20-Jul-26 19:37:48

Lucy Powell and Bridget Phillipson have both been seen walking up to the front door of No 10, as Andy Burnham continues to make his Cabinet appointments at pace.

Ms Powell, the Deputy Labour leader, is a close friend of Mr Burnham’s. She is the MP for Manchester Central, so has had a close relationship with him during his time as Manchester mayor.

Ms Phillipson, the Education Secretary, is on the party’s Left and has overseen the policy of implementing VAT on private schools and the removal of the two-child benefit cap.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 20-Jul-26 19:36:52

Interesting to see where he puts Yvette Cooper now Milliband has her old job.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 20-Jul-26 19:36:09

Well I suppose anything less than Chancellor of the Exchequer might be considered ‘a more junior role’ Casdon?

AGAA4 Mon 20-Jul-26 19:32:32

Glad to see Healey as chancellor. Hopefully he will work on our inadequate defence now. He resigned as he felt Starmer wasn't doing enough.

Primrose53 Mon 20-Jul-26 19:31:19

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Shabana Mahmood has vowed to “finish the job” as she declared that she was delighted to stay on as Home Secretary.

She had been tipped for a move to the Treasury but Andy Burnham has kept her in post at the Home Office.

That’s a wise decision.

Primrose53 Mon 20-Jul-26 19:30:45

Angela Rayner has just gone in to No. 10.
Surely AB won’t be daft enough to make her Health Minister. 🤣Just imagine the jokes and memes if he does.

I rather like Lisa Nandy though so hope she gets a good position.

Yvette Cooper making a big display of trying to look cool on her stroll down the street like she was just walking to the shop.