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Andy Burnham now officially Leader of Labour Party.

(12 Posts)
LemonJam Fri 17-Jul-26 18:01:58

Maybe AB's ability to communicate with the public will be seen as a good thing rather than a bad thing albeit evidently anyone who does not support the LP and is anti AB is likely to remain a detractor.

One of the criticisms of Starmer was that he did not engage and communicate well with the electorate. AB undoubtably will be better.

Anyone who expects electorate trust to improve overnight and before AB is even PM is living in cloud cuckoo land- it takes time. Parliament is very soon going into summer recess anyway. Thus it will be autumn when AB's plans start to take shape and be communicated.

Galaxy Fri 17-Jul-26 17:51:22

I am not sure people understand where a significant part of the electorate are at. The lack of trust is partly based on the slogans of recent times. We are many years from Churchill.
The dancing reminded me of kinnock though. .

valdali Fri 17-Jul-26 17:45:28

Sometimes, especially a new Labour Leader to the group of labour MP's, a little bit of oration goes a long way. Establish some trust & get the good news out there.
After all Kier was unpopular because he didn't change anything - but he made lots of beneficial changes. He just didn't do an oration about them. So in politics, don't knock it.
What about Churchill's speeches? Hot air? or real pull-together motivation?
Sounds to me as though he'll be to the left of Kier. More a Kinnochite than a Blairite.

LemonJam Fri 17-Jul-26 17:35:49

As Tuliptree outlined the explanation is pretty straight forward. Starmer stood down the Monday after the Makerfield by election. AB put himself forward for leadership.

The leadership contest timetable has seemed short because it ended at first round. It ended at that stage because AB received the backing of 349 MPs ( out of a total of 411) in the first round. going by the numbers - ie other contender MPs between them only managed to secure the backing of 62 MPs between them.

AB therefore won at first stage as a result of overwhelming, unbeatable majority MP backing.

Galaxy Fri 17-Jul-26 17:32:45

But he didn't actually say anything. Other than moving power from Westminster, it was just pretty words. Was that it? There has to be more than good oration.

Maremia Fri 17-Jul-26 17:10:19

Oh yes, so he is.

Casdon Fri 17-Jul-26 17:03:30

It’s a knocking thread,😑🍋 only please, it’s World emoji day.

ronib Fri 17-Jul-26 16:59:49

Another psychodrama and who cares?

MaizieD Fri 17-Jul-26 16:43:49

Are we going to talk about his speech or rehash recent arguments?

I think he's made himself a real hostage to fortune.

Mollygo Fri 17-Jul-26 16:08:54

Primrose53

Just saw a bit of his speech and sounds like he is going to make some big changes.

I still don’t get how he was only elected to Parliament a month ago but is going to become Prime Minister next week!

Quite easy. AB decided he wanted to be PM, established a route to do that via various others willingly stepping down or being coerced into doing so and there you are!

He wasn’t that keen on the PM swapping without a GE when it was Tories, but that’s politicians for you.

Tuliptree Fri 17-Jul-26 15:58:57

Primrose53

Just saw a bit of his speech and sounds like he is going to make some big changes.

I still don’t get how he was only elected to Parliament a month ago but is going to become Prime Minister next week!

Quite easy to understand. KS resigned , AB stood for leadership, no one else did. Labour largest party so leader becomes PM. QED.

Primrose53 Fri 17-Jul-26 13:24:38

Just saw a bit of his speech and sounds like he is going to make some big changes.

I still don’t get how he was only elected to Parliament a month ago but is going to become Prime Minister next week!