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Gaza, I despair.

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greyfur Thu 16-Jul-26 21:00:19

What those people must be going through. Having had a few hot days gives us some understanding. To be without water and a home in the heat.The whole place is destroyed. And now Trump is waiting for Netanyahu to finish it off.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 30-Jul-26 10:12:38

samwam very early days. I think patience will bring its reward, as I am sure Burnham will make his displeasure at Israel’s actions known. Not that they will take any notice.

Samwam Thu 30-Jul-26 10:06:59

The UK Government after pressure from 80. MPs to call what Israel is doing a genocide and to sanction Isreal refused.

In UK we had a reputation of upholding international law

British surgeon: "I feel quite angry that this country (UK) which traditionally has stood for justice, and has stood up for the oppressed, and has an international reputation for doing that, is letting this genocide go by and doing nothing about it”.

If ever there was an issue that could so clearly define a leader it is Gaza and the West Bank. When our surgeons are returning with clear anger in their hearts at the stance of our government, any leader worthy of the name would take decisive action.

Burnham can fiddle around with bus fares and help out the homeless, which OF COURSE is needed, but standing up to Israel in word AND deed is pivotal if he wants us to believe his rhetoric about being different.

AGAA4 Thu 30-Jul-26 08:10:45

The monsters are Netanyahu's regime.
Israel is moving the yellow line further into Gaza displacing more families. They occupy 53% and. Netanyahu aims for 70%. Palestinians say death is preferable to being moved on continually and humiliated. BBC verify.

Maremia Thu 30-Jul-26 07:06:18

Important to now know that too.

Wyllow3 Wed 29-Jul-26 22:58:52

Yes. The more organisations in the area where they seek to work this way ❤️.

I wasn't sure whether to post this but felt it spoke volumes.

Something terribly sad in Haaretz today.

"IDF's mental health crisis deepens as two more soldiers die by suicide"

What happens when some young people are forced to take up arms, what they have seen, what they are forced to do. It can harden you - or break you.

Quote here is directly from Haaretz

"Military Police probing death by suicide of two Israeli soldiers

Two female IDF soldiers died by suicide over the past two days, continuing a trend that began after October 7, 2023, of rising suicides within Israel's defense establishment.

In southern Israel, a combat soldier died on Tuesday after being found injured at an IDF base, while another soldier who served in a classified role in Military Intelligence died two days earlier at a base in the center of the country, prompting the Military Police to open an investigation into the circumstances of both cases.

Since the beginning of 2026, at least 16 active-duty soldiers have died by suicide, as well as nine additional soldiers who served during the war but were not on active duty at the time of their death. In the decade before the October 7 war, the average number of military suicides was 12 per year. Since then, the number has risen, with 22 dying by suicide in 2025 – the highest figure in 15 years.

Officially, the military's Mental Health Department says it has not identified clear common characteristics among suicide cases since the start of the war, and attributes the figures to the increase in the amount of time people are serving, particularly in the reserves."

It is important not to paint all as monsters as has sometimes happened.

Aveline Wed 29-Jul-26 20:18:51

That's got to be the way ahead.

choughdancer Wed 29-Jul-26 20:02:15

I found this organisation today and have donated. I won't give a link, but a Google found it easily when I wanted to check it was legitimate. It's 'Standing Together', and I like that it is an organisation of Israelis and Palestinians working together.

Maremia Wed 29-Jul-26 19:10:02

Their election is not until October, I think, but hoping that the decent citizens of Israel are able to vote in equally decent politicians.

Maremia Wed 29-Jul-26 18:56:29

They are so brave, standing up to the Government forces, petra.

Aveline Wed 29-Jul-26 18:36:36

Rosie51 you just don't get my point.

petra Wed 29-Jul-26 18:33:59

I wonder if anything will come from this open letter to Trump.

petra.gov.jo/en/news/in-letter-to-trump-former-israeli-security-leaders-urge-intervention-to-stop-settler-terrorism

Wyllow3 Wed 29-Jul-26 18:27:07

No you don't have to be told.

Rosie51 Wed 29-Jul-26 18:19:40

Aveline

I didn't realise my original post had been deleted. GN has not contacted me. So we're not allowed to even comment on a widely shared news item? I resent this censorship.
Obviously antisemitism is not good but neither is condoning violence against Palestinians by illegal Israeli 'settlers'.

Obviously antisemitism is not good surely that's an understatement it's abhorrent to any decent person as is condoning any violence? And you didn't condemn it in your post at all, just said it's 'hardly surprising' which came across as quite indifferent at best and excusing it at worst.
Let's not forget that the victims include Jewish school children who have been being targeted by the antisemitism performed in the name of support for Gaza and the West Bank. How does antisemitism help even one person in Palestine?

Maremia Wed 29-Jul-26 17:45:19

That's odd. I thought you had to be told about deletions.
With you, about both antisemitism and settler violence.

MayBee70 Wed 29-Jul-26 17:28:01

Aveline

I didn't realise my original post had been deleted. GN has not contacted me. So we're not allowed to even comment on a widely shared news item? I resent this censorship.
Obviously antisemitism is not good but neither is condoning violence against Palestinians by illegal Israeli 'settlers'.

I agree sad.

Aveline Wed 29-Jul-26 17:16:54

I didn't realise my original post had been deleted. GN has not contacted me. So we're not allowed to even comment on a widely shared news item? I resent this censorship.
Obviously antisemitism is not good but neither is condoning violence against Palestinians by illegal Israeli 'settlers'.

Maremia Wed 29-Jul-26 16:45:59

Didn't know that Belgium had such a policy.

silverlining48 Wed 29-Jul-26 16:43:47

Not told off, just politely responding to your point.

Maremia Wed 29-Jul-26 16:37:29

Interesting about those ships, Samwan.
This must be a new policy.

Maremia Wed 29-Jul-26 16:35:20

From what I can see on this Thread, there appeared to be a 'pile on' against Aveline.

Rosie51 Wed 29-Jul-26 16:28:16

Just come back to find I've been told off three times, does that count as a 'pile on' ?
I note Aveline's original post has been deleted by GN headquarters, I wonder why?

Maremia Wed 29-Jul-26 15:43:53

Aveline has said nothing of the sort Rosie.

silverlining48 Wed 29-Jul-26 15:31:37

Rosie you are misquoting Aveline. She does not say antisemitism is acceptable but that it is hardly surprising. I think she is quoting from research reported in this mornings bbc news that of the 8 or 9 countries with the most Jews in their population, who have self reported increased antisemitism.

This has been always been about the Israeli government actions not the population. Though many in Israel are in total agreement with this which I and many millions of others throughout the world, find abhorrent.

To those honourable Jews who stand up against the rest I applaud their bravery and their decency. They can hold their heads high when their children and grandchildren ask about this genocide in future.

Aveline Wed 29-Jul-26 15:26:19

No. It's just human nature. I'm surprised you don't see that.

Rosie51 Wed 29-Jul-26 15:03:44

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