Security for all MPs

I wonder if there are people researching and writing thesis in about the Uk, on all this.
It would be an enlightening read.

Casdon

That doesn’t actually mean much unless it’s compared to the number of threats received by other leaders and politicians though, Sunshinegirls, does it? We have no idea whether it is exceptional or not without comparators. There also isn’t an explanation regarding what happens when people make death threats, presumably they are passed on to the police for investigation - we do see people prosecuted quite often as a result of them making threats against politicians.

I’m not minimising the potential risk to Nigel Farage, I just don’t think it’s helpful for snapshots like this to be released with no context.

I agree.

As posted earlier Farage needs to report his actual online threats ( and any other threats) to the police for investigation and potentially prosecution.

Information from Zia Yousef is hearsay with all due respect. Actual reporting and handing over said online threats to the police will verify and quantify the level of online threats Farage receives. Then his numbers can be compared to other MPs who receive online threats.

On line threats cannot be dealt with by a man in a suit standing beside him and the police and/or state can only respond if they are informed and Farage avails himself of his star. funded security- which for some bizarre reason he has declined. His choice.

The police have cybercrime units that work directly with Internet Service Providers and. email providers to analyse email metadata, server routing logs and IP addresses.

Thus. they are well positioned to track and identify the sender of such threats Zia Yousef claims. The police arrive at the person's home unannounced arrest under a suspected Malicious Communications charge- then bring in the individual for police interview etc.

Malicious Communications Act 1988 is the legislation and it is an offence to send a letter, electronic communication that contains a threat.

Pretty slam dunk once the evidence trail is secured.

Reform need to clean up their act and their use of language.

Tice, and Yusuf, in particular, frequently refer to Conservative and Labour politicians as traitors.

Farage said Lord Hermer was betraying national interests. More recently he said the the public should respond with cold rage to the murder of Henry Nowak.

Yusuf wrote: I view Tory and Labour politicians as traitors to their country. A reckoning is coming.

and:

A mortal blow to the Tories. Nothing less that these traitors deserve.

He "liked" a far-right anti-semitic tweet which called Jenrick a traitor and criticised his Jewish wife and family.

Lee Anderson in a Westminster debate: Labour MPs are all traitors.

Human rights barrister Andy Wagner wrote:

Words have consequences – and riling people up on the basis that lawyers and politicians are ‘traitors’ can lead to worse things than critical posts from me.

On June 16, 2016, Nigel Farage unveiled is UkiP "Breaking Point" anti-migrant poster. It was widely condemned by MPs from other parties.

Hours later. Thomas Mair shot MP Jo Cox twice in the head and once in the chest with a modified .22 hunting rifle then stabbed her 15 times. He shouted "This is for Britain", "keep Britain independent", and "Britain first”.

As his trial he said he was death to traitors.

Do you see the connection, Sunshinegirls?

How exactly would the £5million gift, allegedly for security actually stop online threats?

Why doesn't Farage report them. to the police?

Graphite language is important, one Labour politician murdered, one Conservative politician murdered and now with Ann a former Conservative politician and a Reform spokesperson murdered.

Are those on the left just more subtle with their insults and language or are they deeper undercover ?

LemonJam

How exactly would the £5million gift, allegedly for security actually stop online threats?

Why doesn't Farage report them. to the police?

I'm intrigued by Yusuf's largely mendacious statement. Has someone been logging these threats over a long period of time or has an aide been frantically searching social media for the last few days?

I agree that everyone in the public eye should be cautious with their language.

What bothers me is that Reform politicians, on an almost daily basis, use their monetised X accounts to post inflammatory language which could lead to tragedy.

When Yusuf talks about a reckoning coming to politicians he calls traitors and receiving a mortal blow they deserve, does he even recognise the link between Farage’s behaviour and the death of Jo Cox and the words her killer used ?

Perhaps not as he has a habit of denying things that happened before he joined Reform e..g nobody senior in Reform knew Russian asset Nathan Gill despite Farage and Tice having known and worked with him for years.

Yusuf’s behaviour is insidious and needs to be reined in.

GrannyGravy13

Graphite language is important, one Labour politician murdered, one Conservative politician murdered and now with Ann a former Conservative politician and a Reform spokesperson murdered.

Are those on the left just more subtle with their insults and language or are they deeper undercover ?

The killing or attempted killing of MPs cannot be discussed simply as a left/right issue. Firstly, 6 MPs have been killed by Irish Nationalists, then more recently Nigel Jones’s a LD MP was seriously injured and his aide murdered. The killer was deemed mentally unfit to stand trial and there was no political motive apparent. Stephen Timms was seriously injured by an Islamic extremist whilst Jo Cox’s killer was a white supremecist . David Amess’ killer was also involved with radical Islamism. With Ann Widdecombe we do not have all the information yet although ‘communist’ literature as been mentioned. Obviously the whole online world of threats of varying degrees of vileness and seriousness is another issue but is awash with misogyny and racism. Ask Sadiq Kahn and Diane Abbott especially but many female and black MPs across the political spectrum

Lucy Connolly, 41, received a 31-month prison sentence after calling for “mass deportation now” in a social media post to her 10,000 followers on X on the day three children were killed in a knife attack in Southport.

In the expletive-ridden message she said set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards for all I care and concluded if that makes me racist so be it

Nigel Farage described Lucy Connolly's conviction as a symbol of Keir Starmer's authoritarian, broken, two-tier Britain criticising her imprisonment as evidence of a two-tier justice system. He advocated for her case internationally, calling it a prime example of the UK backsliding on free speech Even Elon Musk waded in saying LC's free speech should be allowed.

Farage appears have his own 2 tier system when it comes to malicious communications! Farage publicly said Lucy Connolly should have been allowed to incite racial hatred under the umbrella of free speech and that she was not allowed is a symbol of an authoritarian state

So can someone help me understand why Farage believes people other than Lucy Connolly are not allowed to exercise free speech in exactly the same way and send malicious on line communications to Farage under the same umbrella of free speech