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Trump tears peace hopes into pieces.

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Wyllow3 Thu 09-Jul-26 09:57:06

Those were headline in the Metro newspaper, but it just about sums up Trumps latest -

peace ends, bomb to bits, Iran responds, Straits closed, Trump now states he is going to take Greenland, Trump smashes at NATO.

This is my personal view, and I don't want it to distract from other discussions about what is happening in the Middle East and Iran areas

but for me a world without Trump who can turn his defence department into a war cabinet, and consistently talks war war not jaw jaw is forcing the world to all spend more on defence until we are bristling with armaments.

and here we are sweltering in high temperatures with news of dying species and melting ice all over the world, climate change, and cutting our spending on that - instead of stuff like cheap solar panels and even more investments in those industries and alternatives to car use.

Here's the front page I alluded to, I'm sure someone with a more active brain than me today can find more a more succinct statement on the picture as regards Trump and Iran.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3ryelw8ewwo

Iam64 Thu 09-Jul-26 19:01:09

I also believe Trump bombed Iran as a distraction for his growing problems at home. He operates like an unethical property developer, always they deal, with any lies or manipulation, threats to achieve his aim. He’s a dangerous man, his generals must know this.
His narcissistic personality, combines with the ageing of his brain to cause untold problems world wide

Remind me, when did a war to force regime change ever cause anything posituve

imaround Thu 09-Jul-26 19:29:01

Mitch McConnel has been hospitalized since June 14th after an unknown medical emergency. No one has seen him since, though his aids and GOP leaders have said they havve spoken to him.

The fact that his wife was in China/left for China at the same time, then said she didnt see a need to rush home because his health didnt warrant it, has not helped.

Enter conspiracy theories.

Kentucky has a new law that has not been tested.

"The renewed focus on how Kentucky handles Senate replacements stems from House Bill 622, a 2024 law that repealed Kentucky’s long-standing practice of allowing the governor to appoint an interim U.S. senator. Instead, the law requires vacancies to be filled through a special election, with the governor’s role limited to issuing a proclamation calling that election.

Under the current statute, a vacancy occurring before Aug. 3 would trigger the process for a special election to fill the remainder of McConnell’s current term. But election law experts say the law, which has not yet been tested in court since taking effect in 2024, could face constitutional scrutiny."

www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/senate/4639659/uncertain-status-mcconnell-health-create-legal-firestorm-potential-replacement-vacancy-law/

So the theory is that he has died, but they arent telling anyone until Aug 4th to stop a special election happening to replace McConnel, allowing it to roll into the November election instead.

The current make up of the Senate still gives the GOP an advantage without Mitch, so the GOP is not in a hurry to replace him.

My opinion is that they would wait until November with the hopes that they can win the general election. They flipped 4 Senate seats in 2024, so they may be holding onto that. And Kentucky is complecated anyhow because it is GOP controlled with a Dem Governor and there is huge discourse about executive power. Which is how this whole problem started in the first place as the state legislature repealed the Governors ability to appoint a successor.

Funny how that works isnt it?

This is coming off the heels of the NJ Congressman who missed work for 142 days. His staff said he had a medical issue. He still managed to fundraise, and win his primary.

He returned to work to disclose that he had been in inpatient treatment for depression. Which is great for him, however he has voted to take away this type of coverage for his constituents. To add insult to injury, he kept 4 months of full salary and health insurance without having to go on disability and receive only 66% of his salary, or lose his job, like the people of Kentucky would have.

Before that, there was Kay Granger from Texas. Who was quietly moved into assisted living for months for dimentia while still on the job and receiveing her paycheck.

I am sure there are others from both sides throughout history. Ill have to go look.

Dickens Thu 09-Jul-26 20:16:17

Iam64

I also believe Trump bombed Iran as a distraction for his growing problems at home. He operates like an unethical property developer, always they deal, with any lies or manipulation, threats to achieve his aim. He’s a dangerous man, his generals must know this.
His narcissistic personality, combines with the ageing of his brain to cause untold problems world wide

Remind me, when did a war to force regime change ever cause anything posituve

Remind me, when did a war to force regime change ever cause anything posituve

Trump must've been told words to that effect by his advisors, aides, military generals, etc.

You have to wonder whether he has a real grasp of the fallout from the war and the wider regional conflict, not to mention the effect on the global economy.

I have the impression that Trump views his war rather like a child reading one of those comics about conflicts specially designed for an immature brain - lots of colourful pictures and exclamations, "bang", "boom", "pow", "zap" etc.

Gran22boys Thu 09-Jul-26 20:22:28

sassenach512

At what stage are the American people going to say enough is enough and demand this demented, evil monster is removed from office? He's obviously a very sick man and the world looks on at his antics with disbelief and horror. Even his sycophants must know he's overstepped every line and he should go before he blows us all to hell and back. None of them have the guts to stand up to him, they stand behind him like grinning, nodding dogs when he spouts his gibberish, it's pathetic.
I just can't understand how he can get away with the abuse and outrageous things he's said to people without someone giving him some back. He certainly doesn't deserve respect for his office because he's a disgrace to his office

You’ve said it all, Sassenach.

Wyllow3 Thu 09-Jul-26 20:29:21

Thank you Imaround I didn't know any of what you wrote and appreciate the information (as well as the hypocrisy shown) clearly thats a "dodge" that can be used for both positive and negative reasons
But is profoundly undemocratic!

Cossy Thu 09-Jul-26 20:42:47

Wyllow3

Thank you Imaround I didn't know any of what you wrote and appreciate the information (as well as the hypocrisy shown) clearly thats a "dodge" that can be used for both positive and negative reasons
But is profoundly undemocratic!

I too was very interested in all Imaround explained to us.

Thanks from me too thanks

Oreo Thu 09-Jul-26 21:38:34

Cossy

I think, respectfully, we need to agree to disagree Oreo on what is and isn’t appropriate action and language aimed at Iran.

Wars such as these affect normal innocent citizens, who often end up being displaced from their own countries, where will they go? These wars affect many worldwide in many ways and I’m afraid I just don’t think it’s the answer.

I always find it interesting that those countries that also have despot regimes, yet have nothing the rest of the world want or a desire to deprive that country of things ie nuclear capability, are left to continue to commit genocide or otherwise torture their own citizens without batting an eyelid.

Each of us will have our own views, we need to accept gracefully that others may not agree with us.

I’m confused as to why you think we ‘need to accept gracefully that others may not agree with us’? Where have I said that others may not have a different opinion?
Trump is an idiotic man in many ways and corrupt I believe in his dealings with many things, but even he can be right sometimes as in NATO must increase its spending pdq and that Iran is a terrible regime for the rest of the world by getting hellish groups in other countries to do its dirty work.A poster on here made the incredibly naive remark that Iran hadn’t started any wars! Well they did, by arming hamas and encouraging them to enter Israel and conduct a massacre, which then concluded in the Gaza war.They also arm hezbollah and the Houthis among others.The Iranian regime are backseat murderers and war mongers and the US would be doing the Middle East and the West a favour if they manage to ever bring them under control and deny them the chance to acquire
nuclear capabilities.
My only problem with Trump and the US is that they won’t go far enough and don’t seem able to get a coherent strategy together.
That’s my own opinion….other views are available.

Cossy Thu 09-Jul-26 21:45:42

I agree with much of what you say Oreo, but I would say many other countries sell arms to very dubious countries.

I am just completely anti-war, I think on the whole, across the decades it causes more issues than it solves.

I’m not referring to our two WE, these were necessary for defence!

I agree we need to strengthen our own armed services too and spend more on defence.

So much is corrupt and topsy-turvy in this world of ours, it sometimes makes me despair.

Talking of Gaza, and Ukraine, I would have preferred Trump to “stop these wars” as he promised, than bomb Iran.

Only my opinion.

Oreo Thu 09-Jul-26 21:51:03

As to wars and conflicts in general there’s an old Irish expression ‘speak softly but carry a big stick’ and NATO sure needs a big stick with all the countries in it doing their part.