Sympathy for Harry anyone?

Not sure what I think. But what I do know is that losing one’s mother is one of the worst things that can happen to a child.

As Monica said Harry was in the army, another institution. He did well in those settings. But as many know life outside of those settings is very different. I think he is a bit of a lost soul who wants to know that his family cares. It would be good to see his family support him. Yes there's always a risk that he will write another tell all book but that is likely to be because he feels rejected.

I think it's worked out rather well for Harry.

He says he's coming with his wife and children, so Charles thinks that at last he'll be able to see his GC. Having given his father something to look forward too, Harry snatches it away, using security issues as a reason when he knew what those security measures would be before making the announcement.

He's offered accommodation at Buck. Palace but manages to leave it too late to accept so he can now whinge about not being allowed to stay in his families ancestral home.

That's at lease two chapters in the next book and possibly an interview too.

I think that Harry is his own worst enemy. He could have been living quietly in America and bringing his family over for private visits with none of us being any the wiser. He say's he fears hordes of paparazzi chasing the children, but if they hadn't made such a thing of never showing the children's faces they wouldn't have people desperate to get pictures. We see photos of the Wales children and they have ceased to be a novelty.

Gran22boys

Not sure what I think. But what I do know is that losing one’s mother is one of the worst things that can happen to a child.

Yet William losing his mother is completely ignored

Smileless2012

I think it's worked out rather well for Harry.

He says he's coming with his wife and children, so Charles thinks that at last he'll be able to see his GC. Having given his father something to look forward too, Harry snatches it away, using security issues as a reason when he knew what those security measures would be before making the announcement.

He's offered accommodation at Buck. Palace but manages to leave it too late to accept so he can now whinge about not being allowed to stay in his families ancestral home.

That's at lease two chapters in the next book and possibly an interview too.

Yes he's always the victim and always has to brief the press. If he could just be more discreet he would have a much better relationship with his family. But he can't resist the LA celebrity headlines so announces everything to the press.

I think it is a blow to his ego but he is now Princess Beatrice who was also 5th in line when she was born. However he is just going to drop now. Princess Anne was once 2nd in line but is now 18th? But Harry cannot accept the drop in status.

As the spare Harry could have done anything - built a business, run an estate, bred horses. But sadly he chose to sell gossip - lured by the celebrity lifestyle.

Deedaa

I think that Harry is his own worst enemy. He could have been living quietly in America and bringing his family over for private visits with none of us being any the wiser. He say's he fears hordes of paparazzi chasing the children, but if they hadn't made such a thing of never showing the children's faces they wouldn't have people desperate to get pictures. We see photos of the Wales children and they have ceased to be a novelty.

Yes - when they left I thought he would follow the model of Princess Madeleine of Sweden - a quiet life in Florida and some charity work. Unfortunately Harry was lured by the big money of selling gossip.

Madeleine didn't burn her bridges in Sweden, didn't sell stories and remained invited to events. So when she and her family moved back they were welcomed.

Not much really now, as marrying Meghan really was a bad idea, and everything has gone downhill since then. I actually feel more sorry for Charles not seeing his grandchildren for...4 years?!! That seems very harsh, and I do think that they should see their grandfather much more than that.

I am scratching my head about the accommodation.. ..there must be a whole range of options for spare bedrooms: what about at Clarence House with his father, or at any of the other London residences. KP or if necessary Windsor, and commute in.. or just stay at a hotel. Or with friends or cousins. I am not understanding the problem? Presumably now that the family aren't coming, it's not about security anymore? Am puzzled.

It is all a ruse and you have fell for it .
I am sure there will be a big family reunion that no one here will know about .

He is so like Edward the 8th.
A spoiled sybarite who then came under the influence of a divorced woman who saw the main chance.
While I don’t believe Wallis Simpson thought she could change the Monarchy,she thought she could change other things to her advantage.
I think Meghan also thought she could bring about change and become more popular than existing members of the family.When she realised she couldn’t she threw her toys out of the pram, thinking she could do better.
I don’t believe she has.

Ridiculous that there two threads on the same subject.

Ilovecheese

Not really sympathy but I do feel very uncomfortable with the amount of nastiness, indeed, vitriol, towards him and his wife.
Pretending to know the thoughts and actions of a person contributors have never met, I find distasteful.

Agreed.

The vile Sussexes weren’t forced to verbally attack the Royal Family in a televised interview with Oprah Winfrey, nor to mock HM the late Queen with that parody of the curtsey, nor was Harry forced to lay bare his petty, spiteful and childish jealousy, really scraping the barrel with the retelling of losing his virginity in his book which portrayed what a nasty character he is (it has been dissected enough in the media, I wouldn’t dream of buying it). Their actions are calculated for maximum impact with a media crew always on board, they’re all “Me! Me!” and the feedback is always deservedly negative, yet some people think they should be left alone?? That seems to be the very last thing they want - who said the only thing worse than being talked about, is NOT being talked about? That sums them up.

NanKate

I thought they wanted a peaceful life in the US, instead they publicise themselves at every opportunity.

I wonder if one day she will move on without Harry, I hope not for his sake.

I wonder how much of a fee the sainted Oprah threw at them to get them on her show?

What's the price for selling your family down the river?

Actually, Prince Harry has become a rollicking frolicking BORE.

Syracute

Ridiculous that there two threads on the same subject.

You’re obviously following them though.

Smileless2012

I think it's worked out rather well for Harry.

He says he's coming with his wife and children, so Charles thinks that at last he'll be able to see his GC. Having given his father something to look forward too, Harry snatches it away, using security issues as a reason when he knew what those security measures would be before making the announcement.

He's offered accommodation at Buck. Palace but manages to leave it too late to accept so he can now whinge about not being allowed to stay in his families ancestral home.

That's at lease two chapters in the next book and possibly an interview too.

Quite probably!

As I said on the other thread...I'm pleased he's been refused BP after dithering as it's a good example of not letting estranged children have everything their way due to parents wanting to see their grandchildren.
Maybe Charles is not that bothered about those kids anyway, who knows?
Not all grandparents are desperate to see their grandchildren.

If my son were debating, for whatever reason, whether to come and stay with me, that's fine providing he kept me in the picture. He can change his mind as often as he likes, as long as he communicates with me.
I'm guessing that's where relations between Harry and Charles fall apart.

No sympathy for him at all. It’s all done to gain maximum publicity for himself, his failing brand and to play the victim.
As for him being a war hero, as someone suggested earlier, that is an insult to true war heroes. He was in a bunker protected by others as is widely known. And has anybody ever seen him fly a helicopter? Hmmmm.

In our experience the desire to see the GC you've never known diminishes with time MarieElla and maybe it's like that for Charles now.

vegansrock

It’s a bit sniffy of Buckingham Palace to say there isn’t time to organise his accommodation - how many bedrooms and staff does that place have? Charles doesn’t even live there. I’m sure they have a spare bedroom and could rustle up someone to cook his breakfast.

But noone lives there anymore do they so logically they do need a bit of time to sort out the security; staffing; kitchens etc etc

Silvershadow

No sympathy for him at all. It’s all done to gain maximum publicity for himself, his failing brand and to play the victim.
As for him being a war hero, as someone suggested earlier, that is an insult to true war heroes. He was in a bunker protected by others as is widely known. And has anybody ever seen him fly a helicopter? Hmmmm.

I dont think that's fair. He was not in a bunker the whole time and fully participated in the action ...jntil he was deemed too much a target thus putting his fellow servicemen at risk just for being him!

And yet, all the photos of him ‘in action’ show him with spotlessly clean uniform and as one ex serviceman said his weapons were not in the correct place. I don’t believe he was in the thick of it.